Champions League Final , Sat 28th May '22

[lancs blue]

I hesitate to say this but, as a dad of 3 boys, I would never have taken them on an away trip like this, nor taken/let someone with significant asthma go there (Jurgen; ru listening!) for fear that it would be dangerous in many obvious ways - as transpired.
Why would you expect to be safe, knowing the history of Liverpool FC? Why not err on the side of caution, and don't go/don't expose them to risk? One thing's for sure, when it all goes tits up and you're crying because someone got hurt, tear-gassed, you had an asthma attack, because you're asthmatic and probably can't take tear gas as well as your average hooligan (who is probably not going to be very far away from you); or you didn't get in the ground because of problems with foreign police, who hold no fondness for the British football fan; or fellow supporters jibbing-in, and causing a closure of turnstiles; don't come crying to the rest of the world bleating your heart out with surprise at how you've been treated.
It was all forseeable, and there was always a chance that what actually happened - for a combination of reasons - was going to be par for the course.

Harsh judgement on the woman who was tear-gassed. I've had asthma for 60-odd years but it wouldn't have stopped me going if City had made it to the final. Strangely I've never been to any match, including plenty of European aways, thinking "shit, I might get tear-gassed".

I don't doubt that some ticketless Liverpool fans were to blame for some of the trouble but equally it's not hard to believe that there were organisational cock-ups in the way it was handled.

 

[jamesha]

Missus & I are in Paris, a special trip for her big birthday (70) planned months ago. Arrived yesterday and saw no Scousers till this morning. As we're having breakfast in a cafe on a side street and talking to a French couple a L'pool fan came by with his two feral offspring, ages about 14 and 10 maybe, all in their red shirts; the bigger one reaches over and nicks a bit of food off the wife's plate, laughs and runs off. We'd said nowt to them and looked like ordinary tourists or even four locals. Remonstrated with the fat Scouse dad who said his lad's only having a bit of fun and, still thinking we're all French, curses out the two women. Ends up a bit of a scuffle on the pavement till the very big waiter came out of the cafe and the Scousers disappeared down the street. As they went away one of the lads dropped his passport. What shall i do with it?

Bin it

If you do that it will be found by a scouser within seconds. Hide it at the job centre and it will remain undisturbed for years.

 

[Marklr]

Missus & I are in Paris, a special trip for her big birthday (70) planned months ago. Arrived yesterday and saw no Scousers till this morning. As we're having breakfast in a cafe on a side street and talking to a French couple a L'pool fan came by with his two feral offspring, ages about 14 and 10 maybe, all in their red shirts; the bigger one reaches over and nicks a bit of food off the wife's plate, laughs and runs off. We'd said nowt to them and looked like ordinary tourists or even four locals. Remonstrated with the fat Scouse dad who said his lad's only having a bit of fun and, still thinking we're all French, curses out the two women. Ends up a bit of a scuffle on the pavement till the very big waiter came out of the cafe and the Scousers disappeared down the street. As they went away one of the lads dropped his passport. What shall i do with it?

Are you sure it's not a giro?

 

[ysmsa]

Harsh judgement on the woman who was tear-gassed. I've had asthma for 60-odd years but it wouldn't have stopped me going if City had made it to the final. Strangely I've never been to any match, including plenty of European aways, thinking "shit, I might get tear-gassed".

I don't doubt that some ticketless Liverpool fans were to blame for some of the trouble but equally it's not hard to believe that there were organisational cock-ups in the way it was handled.

All about reputation.

For weeks Klopp has been telling Dippers to go to Paris without tickets.

For 50 odd years Dippers have been "jibbing in" which has resulted in 2 major tragedies.

Social Media has been full of Dippers boasting about fakes, willing to buy fakes, happy to go without tickets etc etc.
The market was created for the criminals to produce fakes so a load of fakes were produced, sold and resold.

Dippers that bought fake tickets or from unscrupulous sellers don't give a fuck about their fellow fans.

Dippers arrive at the ground en masse with fake tickets or without tickets are outraged when somebody notices the chaos and shuts the doors.

( I heard a Dipper on 606 say "Athens was fine as they opened the gates and let everyone in, Paris they locked the gates and chaos!"
This is what we are dealing with Chaps!)

I am yet to hear a Dipper lay blame on their own Cunts that were happy to Jib in, buy fakes, climb walls etc. but I have heard plenty blame some "locals" for causing all the trouble.

Just rewatch the match, that Dipper end was rammed with Red stood on the aisles and gangways when supposedly there were thousands outside with genuine tickets!

Absolute cunts.

Every Club should rename their ground "Stade De France" for next season, that'll keep the cunts out!

 

[Lavinda Past]

Harsh judgement on the woman who was tear-gassed. I've had asthma for 60-odd years but it wouldn't have stopped me going if City had made it to the final. Strangely I've never been to any match, including plenty of European aways, thinking "shit, I might get tear-gassed".

I don't doubt that some ticketless Liverpool fans were to blame for some of the trouble but equally it's not hard to believe that there were organisational cock-ups in the way it was handled.

As I understand it, the woman had been told that she wouldn't be allowed to go in. At that point, she became a part of a growing crowd of people who were doing little more than blocking entry for others... Basically, hoping to jib in at some point.

The French police were quite within their rights to disperse the crowd. The fact that they used tear gas meant that they didn't have to start cracking heads. The tear gas ensured that the increasingly unruly crowd was dispersed without any further need for action.

If the woman had half a brain, she would have moved away from the entrance gates as soon as the police turned up in numbers. Obviously, the opportunity to get her compo face on the telly was more important than getting herself away. Victim mentality, nothing more, nothing less.

She deserved everything she got. She's lucky that she didn't end up with a fractured skull.

 

[ganganvince]

Missus & I are in Paris, a special trip for her big birthday (70) planned months ago. Arrived yesterday and saw no Scousers till this morning. As we're having breakfast in a cafe on a side street and talking to a French couple a L'pool fan came by with his two feral offspring, ages about 14 and 10 maybe, all in their red shirts; the bigger one reaches over and nicks a bit of food off the wife's plate, laughs and runs off. We'd said nowt to them and looked like ordinary tourists or even four locals. Remonstrated with the fat Scouse dad who said his lad's only having a bit of fun and, still thinking we're all French, curses out the two women. Ends up a bit of a scuffle on the pavement till the very big waiter came out of the cafe and the Scousers disappeared down the street. As they went away one of the lads dropped his passport. What shall i do with it?

Post 2nd class to passport office in Liverpool then you have done all you can to return it but will take weeks.

 

[Bollo]

State of this from the Guardian. Turns out they’ve won the longest parade trophy as well. Maybe they could have used the spare space on the bus to paint one in. I’m sure their American Franchise Holding Company owners will have put some money behind the counter of the local chippies, being part of the community and all.

In a football era increasingly dominated by sovereign wealth and state owners, Liverpool still feels like a club rooted deeply in its community. James Trafford, 38, said it was important that, unlike some other clubs’ victory parades, Liverpool players travelled across the city so that “everybody gets to see it and everybody is part of it”.

Mike Burns, who had wrapped his black-and-white cavapoo, Oreo, in a Liverpool scarf, compared his club’s trophy tour to Manchester City’s a fortnight ago: “We had a nine-mile parade and Man City did a 0.8-mile parade. That says it all, doesn’t it?”

‘Don’t be sad’: Liverpool fans pack city streets to welcome heroes home

Hundreds of thousands turn out for nine-mile victory parade despite defeat to Real Madrid

www.theguardian.com

 

[madloaf]

State of this from the Guardian. Turns out they’ve won the longest parade trophy as well. Maybe they could have used the spare space on the bus to paint one in. I’m sure their American Franchise Holding Company owners will have put some money behind the counter of the local chippies, being part of the community and all.

‘Don’t be sad’: Liverpool fans pack city streets to welcome heroes home

Hundreds of thousands turn out for nine-mile victory parade despite defeat to Real Madrid

www.theguardian.com

"Mike Burns, who had wrapped his black-and-white cavapoo, Oreo, in a Liverpool scarf, compared his club’s trophy tour to Manchester City’s a fortnight ago: “We had a nine-mile parade and Man City did a 0.8-mile parade. That says it all, doesn’t it?”

I think Premier League Champions says it all, doesn't it.

 

[N1985]

Missus & I are in Paris, a special trip for her big birthday (70) planned months ago. Arrived yesterday and saw no Scousers till this morning. As we're having breakfast in a cafe on a side street and talking to a French couple a L'pool fan came by with his two feral offspring, ages about 14 and 10 maybe, all in their red shirts; the bigger one reaches over and nicks a bit of food off the wife's plate, laughs and runs off. We'd said nowt to them and looked like ordinary tourists or even four locals. Remonstrated with the fat Scouse dad who said his lad's only having a bit of fun and, still thinking we're all French, curses out the two women. Ends up a bit of a scuffle on the pavement till the very big waiter came out of the cafe and the Scousers disappeared down the street. As they went away one of the lads dropped his passport. What shall i do with it?

I'd use the name on it to find their address.

Then send them a picture of you wiping your arse with it.

 

[Aba452]

State of this from the Guardian. Turns out they’ve won the longest parade trophy as well. Maybe they could have used the spare space on the bus to paint one in. I’m sure their American Franchise Holding Company owners will have put some money behind the counter of the local chippies, being part of the community and all.

‘Don’t be sad’: Liverpool fans pack city streets to welcome heroes home

Hundreds of thousands turn out for nine-mile victory parade despite defeat to Real Madrid

www.theguardian.com

Hundreds of thousands lined the route????? We talking alternate reality again? If so, I'm shacked up with Jenna Coleman and cruising the Med in my super yacht whilst owning half the British Cabinet!