Champions League Group Stage

Yeah I think the whirling is just for the cameras.

Would be more dodgy if they had rain man up there picking the teams out but most ex footballers don't strike me as being capable of following a complicated system.

And if it were fixed then everyone in football would be aware of it. Like Henry wouldn't tell anyone at Arsenal or even sky sports , R.Carlos to Madrid etc??
Again, not saying this happened at all but I am fairly confident even Roberto Carlos can execute a plan based on the instruction "now, Roberto, when you feel the warm ball, don't pick it up".

Or at least my anonymous spherical thermodynamics engineer source assures me it is possible.

And, as far as the "wouldn't it get out" argument, maybe. But there is quite a lot to lose by each player by outing any such fix, as well.

Then again, UEFA is not known for doing anything questionable or suspect and then being found out later.
 
he supports Bayer Leverkusen so hes most likely German. Typical German arrogance.
Yes, I'm German. Hence I know Gladbach quite well.
I'm not the one being arrogant here. I'm not saying you can't win, I'm just saying I don't believe you'll easily walk over them.
 
That's the chance I'd give for Barca not making it out of the group
And mine was a joke about an especially improbable result coming to pass.

As Aristotle said, a probable impossibility is preferred to an improbable possibility.
 
Bayer Leverkusen.


I watched the games, both of them. You hardly stomped all over them.

Show me the quotes where people have said we will "stomp all over them".

The general consensus is that we got a difficult group. We beat BMG last season with a tactically inferior manager than the one we now have and a team with probably less hunger than what we now have.

Is there something wrong with assuming that we can beat them again?
 
Got direct return £106
One said due to high demand this flight has changed from £89 to £383

Move fast blues
Did Skyscanner and it was £87, click on the link for Opodo they were quoting the same until you clicked to pay and it more than doubled.
Tried the eurowings website and got it for £90, I just hope the pilots not depressed.
 
Show me the quotes where people have said we will "stomp all over them".

The general consensus is that we got a difficult group. We beat BMG last season with a tactically inferior manager than the one we now have and a team with probably less hunger than what we now have.

Is there something wrong with assuming that we can beat them again?
http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/champions-league-group-stage.323837/page-97#post-9672077
http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/champions-league-group-stage.323837/page-98#post-9672099

Just two I found searching for about one minute.
 

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