Chelsea Thread 2013/14

[supercrystal7]

A lot of people are taking Mourinho's comments way too seriously and falling for his trick. Mourinho is not against or even bothered that West Ham stuck 10 men behind the ball. It's simply a distraction tactic, because he personally made a couple of mistakes. It also fits in nicely with the game on Monday. If he parks the bus and City win then the discussion will be about what a hypocrite Mourinho is rather than how great City are. Even if he gets a result, he can then steer the conversation towards City losing their 100% record rather than his hypocritical tactics.

These are what people should really be discussing
-would Chelsea have created something if they had Mata?
-should Chelsea have started with Cole and Cesar to give a little bit more in attack?
-was it necessary to start Mikel?
-why did he take so long making changes?
-why hasn't he gone for a striker?

Instead people are talking about the pointless and irrelevant comments he made.

 

[moomba]

Falling for his trick?

Do you get points for that, or is it totally irrelevant whether people discuss what Jose says on an internet forum or not?

 

[adrianr]

A lot of people are taking Mourinho's comments way too seriously and falling for his trick. Mourinho is not against or even bothered that West Ham stuck 10 men behind the ball. It's simply a distraction tactic, because he personally made a couple of mistakes. It also fits in nicely with the game on Monday. If he parks the bus and City win then the discussion will be about what a hypocrite Mourinho is rather than how great City are. Even if he gets a result, he can then steer the conversation towards City losing their 100% record rather than his hypocritical tactics.

These are what people should really be discussing
-would Chelsea have created something if they had Mata?
-should Chelsea have started with Cole and Cesar to give a little bit more in attack?
-was it necessary to start Mikel?
-why did he take so long making changes?
-why hasn't he gone for a striker?

Instead people are talking about the pointless and irrelevant comments he made.

I'm surprised at you supercrystal.. You seem like a man who knows his football. That in mind, could we all please, please, please stop chalking everything that comes out of that mans mouth as some sort of macheavellian football media master plan. People are emotional, and sometimes when under pressure emotions will get the best of them. Not everything that comes from his mouth is a fucking plan. It's infuriating that so many people assume he's that intelligent. He's a fucking football manager for christ sake.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

A lot of people are taking Mourinho's comments way too seriously and falling for his trick. Mourinho is not against or even bothered that West Ham stuck 10 men behind the ball. It's simply a distraction tactic, because he personally made a couple of mistakes. It also fits in nicely with the game on Monday. If he parks the bus and City win then the discussion will be about what a hypocrite Mourinho is rather than how great City are. Even if he gets a result, he can then steer the conversation towards City losing their 100% record rather than his hypocritical tactics.

These are what people should really be discussing
-would Chelsea have created something if they had Mata?
-should Chelsea have started with Cole and Cesar to give a little bit more in attack?
-was it necessary to start Mikel?
-why did he take so long making changes?
-why hasn't he gone for a striker?

Instead people are talking about the pointless and irrelevant comments he made.

What a load of utter drivel.
You don't get to prioritise just what folk want to talk about.
If folk want to discuss Maureen's comments then that's their call.
His 'trick' was rumbled years ago.
He's not 'special' anymore.
You can make a song of that if you want.

 

[mac]

A lot of people are taking Mourinho's comments way too seriously and falling for his trick. Mourinho is not against or even bothered that West Ham stuck 10 men behind the ball. It's simply a distraction tactic, because he personally made a couple of mistakes. It also fits in nicely with the game on Monday. If he parks the bus and City win then the discussion will be about what a hypocrite Mourinho is rather than how great City are. Even if he gets a result, he can then steer the conversation towards City losing their 100% record rather than his hypocritical tactics.

These are what people should really be discussing
-would Chelsea have created something if they had Mata?
-should Chelsea have started with Cole and Cesar to give a little bit more in attack?
-was it necessary to start Mikel?
-why did he take so long making changes?
-why hasn't he gone for a striker?

Instead people are talking about the pointless and irrelevant comments he made.

I'm surprised at you supercrystal.. You seem like a man who knows his football. That in mind, could we all please, please, please stop chalking everything that comes out of that mans mouth as some sort of macheavellian football media master plan. People are emotional, and sometimes when under pressure emotions will get the best of them. Not everything that comes from his mouth is a fucking plan. It's infuriating that so many people assume he's that intelligent. He's a fucking football manager for christ sake.

To true,he looked down beat and worried last night.for all the procession they had they could not beat west ham, so why is that bfs problem.we have had it umpteen times when teams park the bus.live with it Maureen, special my arse.

 

[supercrystal7]

A lot of people are taking Mourinho's comments way too seriously and falling for his trick. Mourinho is not against or even bothered that West Ham stuck 10 men behind the ball. It's simply a distraction tactic, because he personally made a couple of mistakes. It also fits in nicely with the game on Monday. If he parks the bus and City win then the discussion will be about what a hypocrite Mourinho is rather than how great City are. Even if he gets a result, he can then steer the conversation towards City losing their 100% record rather than his hypocritical tactics.

These are what people should really be discussing
-would Chelsea have created something if they had Mata?
-should Chelsea have started with Cole and Cesar to give a little bit more in attack?
-was it necessary to start Mikel?
-why did he take so long making changes?
-why hasn't he gone for a striker?

Instead people are talking about the pointless and irrelevant comments he made.

I'm surprised at you supercrystal.. You seem like a man who knows his football. That in mind, could we all please, please, please stop chalking everything that comes out of that mans mouth as some sort of macheavellian football media master plan. People are emotional, and sometimes when under pressure emotions will get the best of them. Not everything that comes from his mouth is a fucking plan. It's infuriating that so many people assume he's that intelligent. He's a fucking football manager for christ sake.

People are emotional, but it does not mean that emotions get the best of them. Just look at someone like Savage, who never got red cards, but pushed things to their limit. The press conferences are not even directly after a match. You have time to think and clam down. Not all managers do, but you can see when can usually see when a manager has lost control.

What does being a football manager got with being intelligent? Nor does intelligence necessarily have anything to do with Machiavellian manipulation skills.

If his comments had come out at any other period then I might have thought he has lost his cool, but not so soon after selling Mata. Every Chelsea fan and his dog knew that Mata was the most creative Chelsea player. It was games like yesterday in which Mata would be vital. Even I sent a couple of text winding up a few fans about would things have turned out differently if Mata had come on.

People have a right to talk about what they want, but I think you underestimate just how much though people like Mourinho, Ferguson, Allardyce and Rodgers put into their conferences.
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In the end it does not really matter whether it is by design or loss of control. The Chelsea players will look at headlines calling 'Mourinho a hypocrite' and won't care. Instead of headlines about 'Chelsea's mistake letting Mata will cost them the title.'

 

[Castiel]

His quote isn't even being represented accurately. He specifically said he has nothing against what West Ham did. He said: "I cannot be too critical, because if I was in his position I don't know if I would do the same." Which he has before.

Once again, amazed at how easily he winds people up and he's managed to take criticism off our inability to win.

 

[Marvin]

A lot of people are taking Mourinho's comments way too seriously and falling for his trick. Mourinho is not against or even bothered that West Ham stuck 10 men behind the ball. It's simply a distraction tactic, because he personally made a couple of mistakes. It also fits in nicely with the game on Monday. If he parks the bus and City win then the discussion will be about what a hypocrite Mourinho is rather than how great City are. Even if he gets a result, he can then steer the conversation towards City losing their 100% record rather than his hypocritical tactics.

These are what people should really be discussing
-would Chelsea have created something if they had Mata?
-should Chelsea have started with Cole and Cesar to give a little bit more in attack?
-was it necessary to start Mikel?
-why did he take so long making changes?
-why hasn't he gone for a striker?

Instead people are talking about the pointless and irrelevant comments he made.

Started Cole to give a little bit more in attack? But Azpilicueta is much better going forward than Cole.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I've come into contact with a lot of very clever people through the course of my life and to describe Mourinho in those terms, as many seem to habitually do, just because he clumsily employs level-entry 'psychology for idiots', amuses me greatly.

 

[supercrystal7]

A lot of people are taking Mourinho's comments way too seriously and falling for his trick. Mourinho is not against or even bothered that West Ham stuck 10 men behind the ball. It's simply a distraction tactic, because he personally made a couple of mistakes. It also fits in nicely with the game on Monday. If he parks the bus and City win then the discussion will be about what a hypocrite Mourinho is rather than how great City are. Even if he gets a result, he can then steer the conversation towards City losing their 100% record rather than his hypocritical tactics.

These are what people should really be discussing
-would Chelsea have created something if they had Mata?
-should Chelsea have started with Cole and Cesar to give a little bit more in attack?
-was it necessary to start Mikel?
-why did he take so long making changes?
-why hasn't he gone for a striker?

Instead people are talking about the pointless and irrelevant comments he made.

Started Cole to give a little bit more in attack? But Azpilicueta is much better going forward than Cole.

Azpilicueta was always going to start, it was a question of starting Cole AND Cesar over Ivanovic. The flip side is that Ivanovic gives the team height defending and attacking set pieces.

Cole cannot attack and cannot defend much these days, but is fantastic in possession now, which does help the team launch attacks. Starting Cole frees up Cesar to attack down the right, who is a lot better at it than Ivanovic.