wearethesouthstand
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blue alliance is kind of seeking a mandate from a wider body of fans etc, gaining acceptance and trust, asking others what they want, becoming an official branch, applying for tickets in exactly the same way as everyone else has done for years
citizens is a new group.
i can see where some of citizens are coming from. if you are 16/17 and always gone to football in sanitised stadiums, all seater grouds etc and never experienced the standing kippax or even the old north stand at maine rd and then see what happens in italy with clubs like ac milan i can imagine you'd think that is the way forward
but here in england we're a densely populated small country, we've always had lots of travelling away fans, our games have gone live round the world, the atmosphere of english football, the passion well known for decades. we've always had identities with our local teams, even in 84-85 city in d2 played sheff wed, leeds, newcastle with 8-10,000 travelling fans
in places like italy you often don't get fans travelling in big numbers unless its juve milan inter etc so these ultras groups pop up to create an identity because their own atmosphere were so poor
people rave about germany. yes, but they have safestanding, beer in the ground, cheap tickets for fans. it can be no co-incidence that the best atmosphere at our ground in the last decade was hamburg when all the old skool blues turned out cos it was cheap tickets.
we put it to the club last year that champions league prices would affect their plans for the one end v. villarreal - the response "we don't want to devalue the champions league product"
it is possible for atmospheres to be great and we don't all need to all wear the same t-shirt or go along with what 1 person says. that's plastic and manufactured in my view, just my opinion
citizens is a new group.
i can see where some of citizens are coming from. if you are 16/17 and always gone to football in sanitised stadiums, all seater grouds etc and never experienced the standing kippax or even the old north stand at maine rd and then see what happens in italy with clubs like ac milan i can imagine you'd think that is the way forward
but here in england we're a densely populated small country, we've always had lots of travelling away fans, our games have gone live round the world, the atmosphere of english football, the passion well known for decades. we've always had identities with our local teams, even in 84-85 city in d2 played sheff wed, leeds, newcastle with 8-10,000 travelling fans
in places like italy you often don't get fans travelling in big numbers unless its juve milan inter etc so these ultras groups pop up to create an identity because their own atmosphere were so poor
people rave about germany. yes, but they have safestanding, beer in the ground, cheap tickets for fans. it can be no co-incidence that the best atmosphere at our ground in the last decade was hamburg when all the old skool blues turned out cos it was cheap tickets.
we put it to the club last year that champions league prices would affect their plans for the one end v. villarreal - the response "we don't want to devalue the champions league product"
it is possible for atmospheres to be great and we don't all need to all wear the same t-shirt or go along with what 1 person says. that's plastic and manufactured in my view, just my opinion