Citizens (cont)

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Sorry, but when was the aim to go out on the lash? Not getting into pubs has nothing to do with this. It's about atmosphere, not getting pissed up.
 
Sam. said:
Sorry, but when was the aim to go out on the lash? Not getting into pubs has nothing to do with this. It's about atmosphere, not getting pissed up.

So does everybody just turn up at 3pm, then go home after the game?
 
ManCitizens. said:
Sam. said:
Sorry, but when was the aim to go out on the lash? Not getting into pubs has nothing to do with this. It's about atmosphere, not getting pissed up.

So does everybody just turn up at 3pm, then go home after the game?

Are you serious?

Going for a drink after the game has absolutely nothing to do with this.

If you want to go for a drink after, fine, but that's not what this thread is about.
 
Sam. said:
ManCitizens. said:
Sam. said:
Sorry, but when was the aim to go out on the lash? Not getting into pubs has nothing to do with this. It's about atmosphere, not getting pissed up.

So does everybody just turn up at 3pm, then go home after the game?

Are you serious?

Going for a drink after the game has absolutely nothing to do with this.

If you want to go for a drink after, fine, but that's not what this thread is about.

Your completely missing the point. For this to be a success it also needs to be a social life. If City introduced safe standing do you thing everybody would turn up on their own? Or come as a group of mates singing. I personally enjoy a night out after watching City, im sure others feel the same.

Have you not listened to any advice given to you? NorthernBoy for example explained that ultras aren't just about football, they stick together throughout life. You also need to draw potential members in.

You personally are out of your depth. I really hope you don't represent The Citizens as their intentions are good. Unfortunately going the wrong way about it.
 
ManCitizens. said:
Sam. said:
ManCitizens. said:
So does everybody just turn up at 3pm, then go home after the game?

Are you serious?

Going for a drink after the game has absolutely nothing to do with this.

If you want to go for a drink after, fine, but that's not what this thread is about.

Your completely missing the point. For this to be a success it also needs to be a social life. If City introduced safe standing do you thing everybody would turn up on their own? Or come as a group to sing. We would all stand together, having a laugh.

Have you not listened to any advice given to you? NorthernBoy for example explained that ultras aren't just about football, they stick together throughout life. You also need to draw potential members in.

You personally are out of your depth. I really hope you don't represent The Citizens as their intentions are good. Unfortunately going the wrong way about it.


I've been told the majority were mid 20's. You can go and get pissed with them if you want.

When things get going I would think they would meet before and possibly after games, like you said, but age won't effect that. You don't have to be pissed to have a sing song.

And Ultas stick together throughout life? Is age the only exception of that rule?
 
ManCitizens. said:
Sam. said:
ManCitizens. said:
So does everybody just turn up at 3pm, then go home after the game?

Are you serious?

Going for a drink after the game has absolutely nothing to do with this.

If you want to go for a drink after, fine, but that's not what this thread is about.

Your completely missing the point. For this to be a success it also needs to be a social life. If City introduced safe standing do you thing everybody would turn up on their own? Or come as a group of mates singing.

Have you not listened to any advice given to you? NorthernBoy for example explained that ultras aren't just about football, they stick together throughout life. You also need to draw potential members in.

You personally are out of your depth. I really hope you don't represent The Citizens as their intentions are good. Unfortunately going the wrong way about it.


I know what you are saying and I agree, we did say to everyone that we were going to the pub before the match and we did but only the main members showed up, hopefully when there is more people they will come, but we do intent to meet before and after the game at a pub or something.

I know what you mean about its off putting if no one of your age group is there but we said everyone is welcome and the majority of people that turned up happened to be young. That's just the way it turned out although there were a few other guys who were 30+ there. At the end of the day if you want it to work you just have to turn up. If everyone that was there was say 50 then I would still go. But I do see your point that others wouldn't.

Its early days anyway seen as it will take years and we have only been going a month so there is no need to get to concerned over things like that.

When the TBA came most of them were around the same age so who knows maybe "atmosphere improving groups" attract younger people.
 
The citizens want a more European fan style, the blue alliance want the English spontineaty, what's wrong with being sort of Belgian and compromising?? The English spontineaty and the European passion. Don't want a drum but will bang on a something to keep the chant going longer. Want a capo but don't want to be lead. Want to be colourful and impressive but don't want to dress up as a plastic.

We don't want a drum but we need a drum. We dont want a capo but we need a capo. There needs something to be done but English fans are always stubborn, and too scared of looking foolish, if we let this be a lower league phenomenon, then it will always be looked down upon by the likes of us.

There's only so much the blue alliance can do before they end up looking like a firm picking up shithouse tag alongs who are only after violence that gives everyone else a bad name. I know blue alliance aren't at all, but to an untrained Eye they will, and the club will think the same and they're way too sensitive about that as it is.

So what is needed is a compromise, the cheese the club likes and thinks is acceptable, but with an ulterior motive of uniting the fans to being vocal. At the end of the day, we are supporting our own players so why should we give a fuck about what anyone else thinks. I'm more embarrassed by silence than I am by something others may find cringeworthy.

Whatever though, this will probably be looked over by people blinded by nostalgia and that the English way is the best way. We used to be looked up to by everyone as the way to support our team, but not we are considered the worst. Something must be done before watching football is put in the same category as going to the theatre. People may go to the match to watch city, but many others go to support city.
 
ManCitizens. said:
Why is it "us against them"? We all support Manchester City, both groups need to sort themselves out. On topic, The Citizens, im 22, and i wouldn't stand with those lads in the pics as they look very young. You won't get anywhere with a 12-18 year old fanbase.

It did sound very 'free tickets to school kids at OTish' though from where I was
 
Squadmissile said:
The citizens want a more European fan style, the blue alliance want the English spontineaty, what's wrong with being sort of Belgian and compromising?? The English spontineaty and the European passion. Don't want a drum but will bang on a something to keep the chant going longer. Want a capo but don't want to be lead. Want to be colourful and impressive but don't want to dress up as a plastic.

We don't want a drum but we need a drum. We dont want a capo but we need a capo. There needs something to be done but English fans are always stubborn, and too scared of looking foolish, if we let this be a lower league phenomenon, then it will always be looked down upon by the likes of us.

There's only so much the blue alliance can do before they end up looking like a firm picking up shithouse tag alongs who are only after violence that gives everyone else a bad name. I know blue alliance aren't at all, but to an untrained Eye they will, and the club will think the same and they're way too sensitive about that as it is.

So what is needed is a compromise, the cheese the club likes and thinks is acceptable, but with an ulterior motive of uniting the fans to being vocal. At the end of the day, we are supporting our own players so why should we give a fuck about what anyone else thinks. I'm more embarrassed by silence than I am by something others may find cringeworthy.

Whatever though, this will probably be looked over by people blinded by nostalgia and that the English way is the best way. We used to be looked up to by everyone as the way to support our team, but not we are considered the worst. Something must be done before watching football is put in the same category as going to the theatre. People may go to the match to watch city, but many others go to support city.

Watched Celtic against Barca on Wednesday and the atmosphere was fantastic, didnt notice any ultras or any one person leading it was just all the fans getting together and singing as one supporting their team.

Not a fan of Celtic but admired the way they got behind the team.

Problem at City is the ground waits for either the singing section or Southe Stand to start a chant/song or for something to happen on the pitch.

The crowd can change what happens on the pitch by intimidating the other team and rousing our players.
 
ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN said:
Squadmissile said:
The citizens want a more European fan style, the blue alliance want the English spontineaty, what's wrong with being sort of Belgian and compromising?? The English spontineaty and the European passion. Don't want a drum but will bang on a something to keep the chant going longer. Want a capo but don't want to be lead. Want to be colourful and impressive but don't want to dress up as a plastic.

We don't want a drum but we need a drum. We dont want a capo but we need a capo. There needs something to be done but English fans are always stubborn, and too scared of looking foolish, if we let this be a lower league phenomenon, then it will always be looked down upon by the likes of us.

There's only so much the blue alliance can do before they end up looking like a firm picking up shithouse tag alongs who are only after violence that gives everyone else a bad name. I know blue alliance aren't at all, but to an untrained Eye they will, and the club will think the same and they're way too sensitive about that as it is.

So what is needed is a compromise, the cheese the club likes and thinks is acceptable, but with an ulterior motive of uniting the fans to being vocal. At the end of the day, we are supporting our own players so why should we give a fuck about what anyone else thinks. I'm more embarrassed by silence than I am by something others may find cringeworthy.

Whatever though, this will probably be looked over by people blinded by nostalgia and that the English way is the best way. We used to be looked up to by everyone as the way to support our team, but not we are considered the worst. Something must be done before watching football is put in the same category as going to the theatre. People may go to the match to watch city, but many others go to support city.

Watched Celtic against Barca on Wednesday and the atmosphere was fantastic, didnt notice any ultras or any one person leading it was just all the fans getting together and singing as one supporting their team.

Not a fan of Celtic but admired the way they got behind the team.

Problem at City is the ground waits for either the singing section or Southe Stand to start a chant/song or for something to happen on the pitch.

The crowd can change what happens on the pitch by intimidating the other team and rousing our players.

If we were beating Barca 2 0 at home I can guarantee that the place would be rocking.

Now if the atmosphere was the same against St Mirren at home then you would have a point but any ground in the world would be like that if you were beating the best team in the world
 
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