it isnt. But it would be a whole lot better if the two singing areas were together. At the moment the thousand or two singers in the south stand are wasted. Their songs don't catch on around around the ground because they have all the old men to their left and the away fans to their right. People start to sing when others near them do, that's why you hear loud songs sweep around the ground like a Mexican wave. The thousand or so singers on the other side of the away fans aren't loud enough to be heard around the ground when there are 3000 away fans making a racket either.dw7 said:I don't think our atmosphere is much worse to most grounds in EnglandDidsbury Dave said:Liam, your wasting your time mate.
Let them fall flat on their cocky arses just like blue watch , blue rebels, mcfc ultras and all those other groups who started a Facebook page and thought it was a 'movement'. And none of them were deluded enough to think that city fans would adopt a song leader and a fucking drum.
There's two reasons our home atmosphere is flat: the structure of the ground and the location of the away fans. The first is permanent. Until the club has the balls to deal with the second then it will never change.
trevorriley said:sorry to be a pain, can sombody put address and post code on thread for tomorrow then i know where im going...
Dead right to, yiou watch celtic in the CL tonight, the players must feel proud, no harm in lifting the team this way..
Looking forward to tomorrow...
I certainly agree with that.Didsbury Dave said:it isnt. But it would be a whole lot better if the two singing areas were together. At the moment the thousand or two singers in the south stand are wasted. Their songs don't catch on around around the ground because they have all the old men to their left and the away fans to their right. The thousand or so singers on the other side of the away fans aren't loud enough to be heard around the ground when there are 3000 away fans making a racket.dw7 said:I don't think our atmosphere is much worse to most grounds in EnglandDidsbury Dave said:Liam, your wasting your time mate.
Let them fall flat on their cocky arses just like blue watch , blue rebels, mcfc ultras and all those other groups who started a Facebook page and thought it was a 'movement'. And none of them were deluded enough to think that city fans would adopt a song leader and a fucking drum.
There's two reasons our home atmosphere is flat: the structure of the ground and the location of the away fans. The first is permanent. Until the club has the balls to deal with the second then it will never change.
Proper modern day 'atmosphere' is when the whole ground joins in. At the moment that doesn't happen enough because the ground doesn't have one voice from one area to
Give them all a lead. There are thousands of people who would sing more if a bigger noise started in one place in the ground. Listen to the dogs which do 'catch on'. They often start in the north stand which means the noise can sweep round both ways and rise much quicker.
The problem, if there is one, with the atmosphere is that the occasional singers aren't singing enough. The regular singers are pointing their fingers at each other but that's wrong.
Listen when we play a big match- united is coming up. For the first ten minutes you'll get a mud of 'we are not standing alone till I die' coming from both the singing areas. The rest of the ground can't join in with that. Then the singing areas will sing less because they think noones joining in. It's a vicious circle.
The acoustics of the stadium don't help. Sound doesn't bounce off the concrete floor of tier two. It only bounces off the main roof. So to get a real noise in coms you need sound to be coming from around the ground or high up in the stadium.
If you moved all the singers lock stock n barrwl to tier 2 and the back of tier one in the North stand you'd have a Storming atmosphere on the ground most weeks, But that can never happen.
it's incredibly difficult to move people em masse though. They were going apeshit when the north stand became the family stand and they aren't even good seats. You've got a corporate area on tier one too which cant really be moved.danburge82 said:I certainly agree with that.Didsbury Dave said:it isnt. But it would be a whole lot better if the two singing areas were together. At the moment the thousand or two singers in the south stand are wasted. Their songs don't catch on around around the ground because they have all the old men to their left and the away fans to their right. The thousand or so singers on the other side of the away fans aren't loud enough to be heard around the ground when there are 3000 away fans making a racket.dw7 said:I don't think our atmosphere is much worse to most grounds in England
Proper modern day 'atmosphere' is when the whole ground joins in. At the moment that doesn't happen enough because the ground doesn't have one voice from one area to
Give them all a lead. There are thousands of people who would sing more if a bigger noise started in one place in the ground. Listen to the dogs which do 'catch on'. They often start in the north stand which means the noise can sweep round both ways and rise much quicker.
The problem, if there is one, with the atmosphere is that the occasional singers aren't singing enough. The regular singers are pointing their fingers at each other but that's wrong.
Listen when we play a big match- united is coming up. For the first ten minutes you'll get a mud of 'we are not standing alone till I die' coming from both the singing areas. The rest of the ground can't join in with that. Then the singing areas will sing less because they think noones joining in. It's a vicious circle.
The acoustics of the stadium don't help. Sound doesn't bounce off the concrete floor of tier two. It only bounces off the main roof. So to get a real noise in coms you need sound to be coming from around the ground or high up in the stadium.
If you moved all the singers lock stock n barrwl to tier 2 and the back of tier one in the North stand you'd have a Storming atmosphere on the ground most weeks, But that can never happen.
I've been thinking for a while; just expand what is now one of the standing sections at 109-111 across the whole of East Stand Level 1 (101-111). I know quite a few lads who don't want to go behind the goal but want to be part of the noise. There's a tradition of over 100 years (Popular Side at Hyde Road, The Kippax at Maine Road) at City of having the vocal section along the side of the pitch.
gotta say this is bollocks. I only went away games with my uncle or my mate, I didnt know anybody else who followed city away. then we met the ba lads and ive gotta say some of the lads there, that i go with now, are the soundest i know. in fact i think they are, as a group, the most inviting and welcoming group of lads ive ever come across.Why Always Ste said:Should be a good laugh tomorrow... :)
oh and to Liam,you made a comment with regards to how "The Citizens" made comments about TBA just being a stag doo... Wrong!
It was me who made those comments. Yes I am an organiser with The Citizens but those are my personal opinions... every time I've come across TBA they've been a gang of lads in/outside a pub completely rat-arsed and throwing ale everywhere.... Great if you're involved in it :) but rather uncomfortable and uninviting if you ain't involved :(
These are my views and also of people who've gone to away games with me.
The Citizens may come across like this aswel in the future... Who knows.