City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

[abu13]

We need masters to be forced out.
Then let him blow the lid off the tail wagging the dog cartel

Not a chance, if he does leave it will be under cover of non-disclosure agreements and a heafty pay off.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

It would be really helpful if we would clarify if there is now any significant difference between your take on what the pivotal issues are and that of the Stefan (and indeed those of GDM, Petruska, HCU & the other legal professionals) helping us all understand what is going on here. Realise it's a big ask though.

I think me and @Chris in London are pretty much on the same page…it just took him a bit longer to declare himself…

 

[Xhavenjoe]

I can't believe the poor **** had to cancel a golfing day at Loch Lomond

Was it the Masters?

 

[Greenandblue]

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So 3 out of the 4 lawyers felt that it wad a win for us

Days later, the noise dies down, the fog clears.....the truth emerges.

 

[Chris in London]

Even if we bring round some of bluemoons world famous cheese on toast with us?

Depends what kind of cheese.

The dogs love Ilchester

 

[johnny crossan]

Depends what kind of cheese.

The dogs love Ilchester

You've just reminded me of lunch at the Mark Addy, fantastic cheeses & lovely beer with the odd dead dog floating past down the Irwell.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

You've just reminded me of lunch at the Mark Addy, fantastic cheeses & lovely beer with the odd dead dog floating past down the Irwell.

Jim Ramsbottom’s venue that.

 

[Chris in London]

It would be really helpful if we would clarify if there is now any significant difference between your take on what the pivotal issues are and that of the Stefan (and indeed those of GDM, Petruska, HCU & the other legal professionals) helping us all understand what is going on here. Realise it's a big ask though.

I don’t disagree with Stefan at all nor with Petruska. We have been discussing some of the minor aspects of the more minor points. A bit like debating Micah Richard’s non penalty in the context of the 6-1.

I can’t actually remember if I agree with HCU or not!

 

[slbsn]

Yes precisely. It is self reporting in the sense that any company that enters into any RPT will self report , but as you say it’s not a concept that is specific to football.

And in almost every other field of human endeavour it appears to work.

The other argument that would have answered the self reporting point, is that the APT rules go far beyond fixing the self reporting issue.

So, if there were legitimate concerns about under reporting of RPTs due to self reporting (the PLs primary case), then the answer is for the transactions to be declared to the league and for the league to consider if they believed (with evidence and professional confirmation) the parties to be RPTs. On the PLs own line of argument, that would have been the proportionate scheme to fix the deficiency without going beyond what was necessary.

But they did go quite considerably beyond that potential fix to self reporting by coming up with a much wider test capturing far more entities, the APT definition and the whole "before the event" APT regime.

 

[slbsn]

I don’t disagree with Stefan at all nor with Petruska. We have been discussing some of the minor aspects of the more minor points. A bit like debating Micah Richard’s non penalty in the context of the 6-1.

I can’t actually remember if I agree with HCU or not!

I think it is about emphasis - we all agree what was decided but aren't completely aligned on how significant it is. Likewise on those points where the PL prevailed. We could do a Q&A Spaces on Friday if I can summon the energy on the topic again.