City= many black players, but at COMS not many black fans

[coleridge]

I don't think many Mancunian Asians support City.

Sorry but you're wrong, Dave. What has happened with youngsters is the last 20 years have sent them more over to OT, for reasons that we all know. It's nothing to do with colour or religion, I can assure you. It's because CIty was our local club that my Dad used to take me in the 70s, but that concept has changed for many football fans in England now.

But, hey, I am apparently one of the goons, so what do I know.

 

[skybluekings]

Maybe the OP is black and wondering how he would be welcomed at COMs(maybe visiting Manchester and would like to go to a footy match) after not seeing many black fans on TV, he might of heard some of the horror stories from Spain, Italy, Russia etc!

100% correct :)

 

[Balti]

So by your reckoning, just because there are so few black and Asian people at the matches, the club is, by default, racist? By the way, it's not "one of the better questions". It's a crass question. It's raised a non existant issue based on absolutley no evidence of racism whatsoever.

No I don't think MCFC are racist, but I think there are a significant number of City fans who are racist, even if they claim not to be. A football ground can be a quite initimidating environment for young Asians as it was for West Indians in the 1970s. You might argue that it's not, but at the very minimum there must be a perception that that is the case, otherwise there would be a lot more Asian fans at our games.

Intimidating for people of West Indian descent? It was the Cool Cats that were the intimidating ones!!!

 

[coleridge]

So by your reckoning, just because there are so few black and Asian people at the matches, the club is, by default, racist? By the way, it's not "one of the better questions". It's a crass question. It's raised a non existant issue based on absolutley no evidence of racism whatsoever.

No I don't think MCFC are racist, but I think there are a significant number of City fans who are racist, even if they claim not to be. A football ground can be a quite initimidating environment for young Asians as it was for West Indians in the 1970s. You might argue that it's not, but at the very minimum there must be a perception that that is the case, otherwise there would be a lot more Asian fans at our games.

When I went to away games with the lads in the 80s, I am almost certain that I was the only 'Asian' in the ground, let alone in the City end. I could entertain you withwith many an instance of bigotry but things are certainly better now and so I don't want it to seem like a current issue. Some of the BNP/NF that I knew from Maine Road days all seem to have disappeared into history now, thankfully. COMS is certainly more friendly to the 'ethnics' amongst us, in my view.

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

More amplified bullshit from the usual suspects,. The OP has every right to make his observations known, right or wrong, but to turn it into a guy making a racial slur is pathetic. Guess I'm one of the minority he speaks of, so fucking what. You seen how many sikhs go to the shit tip up the road........ this undoubtedly makes united a more ethnically/culturally diverse club.......... beggars fucking belief.

 

[100%manc]

at the Celtic game I was sat near this total idiot. Ever time robbie lost the ball or ADE cocked up he would shout studd like "fuck off back to arsenal you thick black b****d" After about 10 mins of it me and the bloke sat next to me stood up turned round and told him to piss off. Half expecting to get a loads of abuse, the majority of fans aplauded.

We reported him to the stuards and he was not there second half. to me this shows that there will always be a few brain dead racist scumbags at any ground but the reaction from the other fans goes to show that we wont put up with it and that racist abuse has no place at COMS.

Its funny that the extreme minority who do still shout racist stuff at our player will still cheer them when they score. Just goes to show who bloody stupid the are

 

[coleridge]

More amplified bullshit from the usual suspects,. The OP has every right to make his observations known, right or wrong, but to turn it into a guy making a racial slur is pathetic. Guess I'm one of the minority he speaks of, so fucking what. You seen how many sikhs go to the shit tip up the road........ this undoubtedly makes united a more ethnically/culturally diverse club.......... beggars fucking belief.

I'd rather have an opinion than be a smug fence-sitting Yes Man. Why don't you name suspects, charge them and conduct the trial in your own Kangaroo Court? At least that would be more entertaining than 'fucking beggars belief', whatever that means.

 

[skybluekings]

It seems like I've stepped on some toes with this thread.

I'm black and I would like to make the trip from Finland to come to see City play. But the thing that you don't know because most of you are living in England, is how the media portrays English football and English football fans.

The premiere league is the best league in football and it gets the most exposure of tv over here. Because of this exposure, the other side of the EPL is also reported: Players having racial chants against them. The fights after games.

If there wasn't a problem with the EPL and race there wouldn't be a stamp racism out of football campaign, now would there?

Someone made a post about socio-economic reasons and another posted about the demographics of Manchester. Both made perfect sense and helped me better understand. Still, it does seem that Man Utd has more "foreign decent" fans than City, alot more. I think you're even guaranteed to see some Indian guys sitting next to the Man Utd players at every home game. We see them every week there. I'm sure they have season tickets or something for that spot :D

However, at City, from watching the games or even the MCFC video of MCFC events, like players arriving or the City concert before the season started. You have to admit, from all that video you can count on 2 hands the "foreign decent" faces you see. So to ask if race is an issue is legitimate.

I do not think that MCFC is in any way racist. The owners are Arabs, 50% of the team is black. How can it be?

I just want to come down to hang out at a pub before the game starts, meet real City die hard fans, learn more about the club, and see my first City game. The purpose of the OP was to gather a sense of safety in doing so.

 

[lancs blue]

It seems like I've stepped on some toes with this thread.

I'm black and I would like to make the trip from Finland to come to see City play. But the thing that you don't know because most of you are living in England, is how the media portrays English football and English football fans.

The premiere league is the best league in football and it gets the most exposure of tv over here. Because of this exposure, the other side of the EPL is also reported: Players having racial chants against them. The fights after games.

If there wasn't a problem with the EPL and race there wouldn't be a stamp racism out of football campaign, now would there?

Someone made a post about socio-economic reasons and another posted about the demographics of Manchester. Both made perfect sense and helped me better understand. Still, it does seem that Man Utd has more "foreign decent" fans than City, alot more. I think you're even guaranteed to see some Indian guys sitting next to the Man Utd players at every game. We see them every week there. I'm sure they have season tickets or something for that spot :D

However, at City, from watching the games or even the MCFC video of MCFC events, like players arriving of the City concert before the season started. You have to admit, from all that video you can count on 2 hands the "foreign decent" faces you see. So to ask if race is an issue is legitimate.

I do not think that MCFC is in any way racist. The owners are Arabs, 50% of the team is black. How can it be?

I just want to come down to hang out at a pub before the game starts, meet real City die hard fans, learn more about the club, and see my first City game. The purpose of the OP was to gather a sense of safety in doing so.

There was nothing wrong with your OP but a lot wrong with some of the crappy responses to it.

You would have no problems at all coming over to watch City. There are very few if any racist chants nowadays at English grounds as the authorities rightly tend to come down hard on the perpetrators so I'm not sure what's being reported in Finland. As was said in an earlier post, Spain and the Eastern European countries are far worse for racism inside grounds.

 

[baldybouncer]

More amplified bullshit from the usual suspects,. The OP has every right to make his observations known, right or wrong, but to turn it into a guy making a racial slur is pathetic. Guess I'm one of the minority he speaks of, so fucking what. You seen how many sikhs go to the shit tip up the road........ this undoubtedly makes united a more ethnically/culturally diverse club.......... beggars fucking belief.

What a load crap. Just because you've seen a handful of Sikhs caught on camera at OT, all of of a sudden Utd are a more ethnically/culturally diverse club! You'll be telling me next that there are no racist fans at OT.

The OP originally asked would he run into racists at CoMS. Errr, well yeh, because there are racists everywhere you go. It's a fact of life. Unfortunately, these dicks don't advertise the fact (hey look at my racist T-shirt)!

I'd be interested to know if the OP has ever made the same enquiry to Tesco's, ASDA etc (you get the point!) and asked the same question.