City vs Villa Post Match Discussion Thread

Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Not one player since Richards/johnson have become a regular or even close to being a regular.

We had a largely failed generation, the FA Youth Cup season side who have all gone on to become at best Championship level players except Sturridge (Premier League) and Weiss (Serie A) and possibly Boyata depending on how he goes in the next couple of years.

Do not forget Guidetti, he could well end up the best player our academy has produced. He is already valued at around £7million and the club is giving him a long-term contract despite having the chance to sell him for good money. Koeman rates him more than Ibrahimovic at the same age.
 
It's noticeable how many people post following a defeat, so negative.

Pathetic.
 
LoveCity said:
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Not one player since Richards/johnson have become a regular or even close to being a regular.

We had a largely failed generation, the FA Youth Cup season side who have all gone on to become at best Championship level players except Sturridge (Premier League) and Weiss (Serie A) and possibly Boyata depending on how he goes in the next couple of years.

Do not forget Guidetti, he could well end up the best player our academy has produced. He is already valued at around £7million and the club is giving him a long-term contract despite having the chance to sell him for good money. Koeman rates him more than Ibrahimovic at the same age.

And injury and lack of motivation to be the best he could be has killed Johnson's career.

Its a poor record and it needs addressing if we are to continue to thrive and produce internationals of any standing in the future.
 
mancity1 said:
LoveCity said:
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Not one player since Richards/johnson have become a regular or even close to being a regular.

We had a largely failed generation, the FA Youth Cup season side who have all gone on to become at best Championship level players except Sturridge (Premier League) and Weiss (Serie A) and possibly Boyata depending on how he goes in the next couple of years.

Do not forget Guidetti, he could well end up the best player our academy has produced. He is already valued at around £7million and the club is giving him a long-term contract despite having the chance to sell him for good money. Koeman rates him more than Ibrahimovic at the same age.

And injury and lack of motivation to be the best he could be has killed Johnson's career.

Its a poor record and it needs addressing if we are to continue to thrive and produce internationals of any standing in the future.

there's a tiny little thing called the Etihad Campus coming.

The academy will be fine, what isn't fine is our transfer policy, if that had been top notch in the summer those kids last night would have had better quality players around them last night.
 
Right I have finally calmed down enough to type in this section. I just want to say that the next time someone moans on here becasue 'we haven't sold out' for a cup game I am going to ram this thread down his throat. I am signed up to the cup schemes but my lads are not. I tried to entice them to come saying I would buy them a pint etc but nothing would convince them. They knew it would be shite whether Villa fielded a scratch team, we couldn't be arsed and put the kids out or whatever, so they both stayed away. What a pair of lucky bastards. Ignore our one freaky season, City and Wembley don't go together. We were 5 games away from a final that's all, just 5.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
mancity1 said:
LoveCity said:
We had a largely failed generation, the FA Youth Cup season side who have all gone on to become at best Championship level players except Sturridge (Premier League) and Weiss (Serie A) and possibly Boyata depending on how he goes in the next couple of years.

Do not forget Guidetti, he could well end up the best player our academy has produced. He is already valued at around £7million and the club is giving him a long-term contract despite having the chance to sell him for good money. Koeman rates him more than Ibrahimovic at the same age.

And injury and lack of motivation to be the best he could be has killed Johnson's career.

Its a poor record and it needs addressing if we are to continue to thrive and produce internationals of any standing in the future.

there's a tiny little thing called the Etihad Campus coming.

The academy will be fine, what isn't fine is our transfer policy, if that had been top notch in the summer those kids last night would have had better quality players around them last night.
There was nothing wrong with the quality of the players around them. Individually they were better than Villa. But if you change an entire team, and play kids at the centre of it and throw a new keeper and new defenders togther you will have problems. Arsenal play their kids in this every season but they can do that as they have continuity over a decade
 
Marvin said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
mancity1 said:
And injury and lack of motivation to be the best he could be has killed Johnson's career.

Its a poor record and it needs addressing if we are to continue to thrive and produce internationals of any standing in the future.

there's a tiny little thing called the Etihad Campus coming.

The academy will be fine, what isn't fine is our transfer policy, if that had been top notch in the summer those kids last night would have had better quality players around them last night.
There was nothing wrong with the quality of the players around them. Individually they were better than Villa. But if you change an entire team, and play kids at the centre of it and throw a new keeper and new defenders togther you will have problems. Arsenal play their kids in this every season but they can do that as they have continuity over a decade

Villa played pretty much their first team.

The chopping and changing doesn't help but we have a lot more on our plates than the likes of Villa and I don't see what else we can do other than rotate.

As for nothing wrong with the quality of those players, well I don't think we have the quality or type of players we need to play a 2nd string team that's strong enough to fit the formations we want to play.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
mancity1 said:
LoveCity said:
We had a largely failed generation, the FA Youth Cup season side who have all gone on to become at best Championship level players except Sturridge (Premier League) and Weiss (Serie A) and possibly Boyata depending on how he goes in the next couple of years.

Do not forget Guidetti, he could well end up the best player our academy has produced. He is already valued at around £7million and the club is giving him a long-term contract despite having the chance to sell him for good money. Koeman rates him more than Ibrahimovic at the same age.

And injury and lack of motivation to be the best he could be has killed Johnson's career.

Its a poor record and it needs addressing if we are to continue to thrive and produce internationals of any standing in the future.

there's a tiny little thing called the Etihad Campus coming.

The academy will be fine, what isn't fine is our transfer policy, if that had been top notch in the summer those kids last night would have had better quality players around them last night.

Facilities are one thing , having scouts that indentify talent and can nature them to a successful professional career at the club that gives them the resources they need is another.

When we have 2 or three Micahs on a regular basis then we can start talking.

As for our policy for established players and last night , if Kolo , Kolorov, Lescott, Dzeko, Balotelli, Tevez, Milner and Barry are what you define as quality that needs improving on in a league cup game against a side who had five changes to a team that shipped in 4 goals in the second half to Southampton 48 hours earlier to give our 3 youngsters the security they needed then heaven help them when things really get tough.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Marvin said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
there's a tiny little thing called the Etihad Campus coming.

The academy will be fine, what isn't fine is our transfer policy, if that had been top notch in the summer those kids last night would have had better quality players around them last night.
There was nothing wrong with the quality of the players around them. Individually they were better than Villa. But if you change an entire team, and play kids at the centre of it and throw a new keeper and new defenders togther you will have problems. Arsenal play their kids in this every season but they can do that as they have continuity over a decade

Villa played pretty much their first team.

The chopping and changing doesn't help but we have a lot more on our plates than the likes of Villa and I don't see what else we can do other than rotate.

As for nothing wrong with the quality of those players, well I don't think we have the quality or type of players we need to play a 2nd string team that's strong enough to fit the formations we want to play.
You could do what Chelsea did and play a strong team that wins the game in the 1st half and coasts in 2nd gear. Or you could rotate. managers call. Maybe he made the right call. The way we are playing, we could have played our strongest team, and we'd have still struggled and with big games ahead that would have meant fielding a weakened team at Fulham.

I think we do have the quality in the squad, but they need work on the training pitch and game time before you can change almost an entire team from one game to the next and expect to play as a cohesive team. Hart organises our back 4, and how many times have Lescott and Nastasic played together, even in training?
 

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