Bald fraud
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Biden wants putin to turn the gas off then he can sell his more expensive LNG which I’m sure he’ll be more than happy to do.
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CL Final Venue | Stade de France named as new venue
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Keepingthefaithsince1976
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Thanks for the info. Putin should ask can he join Nato. That'd throw a spanner in the works of the greedy, self interested, sleepy headed politicians who treat the working class of the world like we are daft.Biden wants putin to turn the gas off then he can sell his more expensive LNG which I’m sure he’ll be more than happy to do.
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Now that world be funny.Thanks for the info. Putin should ask can he join Nato. That'd throw a spanner in the works of the greedy, self interested, sleepy headed politicians who treat the working class of the world like we are daft.
Keepingthefaithsince1976
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Russians are supposed to be good at chess right? That'd be a check mate right there.Now that world be funny.
How does Putin profit from that?Biden wants putin to turn the gas off then he can sell his more expensive LNG which I’m sure he’ll be more than happy to do.
Bald fraud
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He’s asked before Clinton said noThanks for the info. Putin should ask can he join Nato. That'd throw a spanner in the works of the greedy, self interested, sleepy headed politicians who treat the working class of the world like we are daft.
Bald fraud
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He won’t America willHow does Putin profit from that?
Therefore hardly to do with gas prices as the US aren't doing anything.He won’t America will
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It's an interesting question.
Although if Russia do invade Ukraine, the venue of the CL final is going to be the least of our concerns.
Although if Russia do invade Ukraine, the venue of the CL final is going to be the least of our concerns.
Basically Ukraine gets loads of money for having the pipeline run through their country. They used to get gas from Russia at mates rates, when Ukraine decided they’ve got a new best friend in Europe, Russia put the gas price up in Ukraine, which they didn’t like and refused so Russia ended up turning the pipe off on New Year’s Day, just read it was 2009 but thought it was later than that.Is it the pipeline from Russia to Germany called something2?
Why would Putin risk losing that by invading Ukraine? I cant help feeling that we are being fed BS just like wmd's in Iraq. Are you suggesting that the western alliance would prefer Germany to buy its gas from elsewhere ie uk, us, uae, or to put it mildly anyone but Russia. If that is what you are suggesting then we in the West are really playing with fire because Russia is not a small country with a few ak47's like Iraq. Anyway the first casualty of war is the truth.
I agree what you say at the end.....the media are paid by the politicians so one and the same really.
Anyway, that’s when things got a bit shit between the two.
Nord stream 2 means gas goes directly to Germany under the Baltic Sea, Ukraine don’t want this, and neither do Poland, as they both want the transit money.
The joke of cancelling Nord stream 2 is if Russia invade Ukraine, they don’t need nord stream 2 as they’ll have the Ukrainian pipeline. That said, that doesn’t increase the amount of gas they can deliver in the short term. But what Russia can’t deliver in pipes they turn into LNG and ship anyway, however it’s more expensive.
Europe doesn’t want the resilience on Russian gas, because if they have an argument the Russians then hold the cards, but Europe haven’t spent the money on renewables that they should have, because they’re stupid. So now Europe are all a bit fucked. Except maybe France as they use nuclear for electricity, most power plants use gas you see, so a high gas price equals a high electricity price too.
Ukraine want to join NATO after their falling out, Russia won’t have it and will invade Ukraine before that happens and have already annexed Crimea in 2014.
The west have their hands tied as they need Russian resources. So even if they want to get involved, it’ll only be by proxy.