Gary James
Well-Known Member
Oh don't get me started...If we go from the St Marks formation it's 1880.
City use 1894 for some reason and ignore the St Marks and Ardwick years.
I'm sure Gary James would know
Our earliest known game was Nov 1880 but it's possible we played earlier than that. Mufc have no evidence of a footy game before 1880 yet they claim 1878 as NH formation. NH had athletics etc before 1880. So should City use 1880? In my opinion we can stress that our earliest known game was 1880 but if we find an earlier one that messes that up. Also St Marks were playing cricket in 1860s, so using mufc logic then that could be used, but it's all a bit vague. Best to stick to the facts of mcfc formation which was 1894. No ifs or maybes, 1894. For anyone saying yes but Ardwick becameCity - well yes, but not initially. Ardwick played after mcfc was formed and Josh Parlby had to stress mcfc was NOT Ardwick, so let's not have wooly stuff, let's leave that to Utd. We should always talk of the club's roots but putting a St Marks related date that could change in future years would be an error. I'll be happy to talk more about this at the lectures - I'd urge everyone to book on asap.