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some odd Decisions today

Manager has to take the blame today, Bad decisions on his part at half time.
 
Silva is the new gold said:
You can't disagree with anything inpaticular about the team though. Mancini fails to inspire faith in me, I don't have a clue what he said to the dressing room to make them serve up that shit. I still believe we beat United player for player. However, when you get the team performing like that we'll struggle against a determined Swansea side, let alone some of the european heavyweights. The buck stops with the manager when you have such a talented squad playing like that.

Your last line is something that holds no water until Monday evening.

I completely disagree with you though - Mancini sent out a full strength side to play a pre season game. We played it as such, they didn't.

That's the difference.
 
Re: some odd Decisions today

brianireland said:
Manager has to take the blame today, Bad decisions on his part at half time.

Matchday post reaction thread is the place to post your nonsense.
 
we are 2 creative players away from a championship winning 1st 11. Until then we are more brawn than brains.

A back 4 with 2 holding (NDJ & YYT) should be enough with a front 4 that put in a shift (& press like the barca front players do)

baffled by Dzeko. surely he thrives on width which is (currently) not our game.
 
Some people blaming individual players and Mancini obviously never watched the game.

It came down to 1 simple thing, 1 thing they had and we didnt...

passion. The passion and drive to go and win the game, they gave 100% we didnt, so they won.


I still firmly believe we will finish above them this season.
 
Not Bobbys fault at all. Completely down to the players that one. Balo was fairly anonymous for most of the game and we were getting smashed so Mancini brought on Barry to calm us down. Then he almost immediately brought on AJ to give us width.

Can't see how anyone can blame Mancini for the players royally bottling it.

Bring on Swansea.
 
Re: Fitness

shawgorbie said:
danburge82 said:
United were A LOT fitter than us. Sharpness, movement (lots of movement), crisp first touches, harrying when they didn't have the ball. In comparison we looked lathargic, leggy, we weren't on our toes, lazy lunges at the ball instead of quick studder-steps, our movement was poor and at times non-existent. I'm sure we've had a good pre-season but United looked a game or two further on in fitness terms than us.

Yes I'm disappointed we lost but I'll be over it by the morning and be looking forward to the start of the new season!
absolutely spot on
Rags also had a much longer preseason, with plenty more matches. They were fitter.

People are saying Mancini is bad tactically! FFS that's one of the things he's known for being good at. Tactics that are supposed to work on paper don't always come off you know, especially when the opposing team looked as hungry Untied did today.

The Barry change to me made sense. They were passing all over us and Barry (on paper) was supposed to help cut up their play. It made sense, but it didn't work.

Get rid of that mentality that defense doesn't win games, because had we defended well today and looked composed on the ball, it would have been our game.

Silva today, my favorite player, I wasn't impressed with. He wasn't looking for the ball as he always does. Well I might add in the first place, we couldn't hold the ball long enough for him to.

Yes, Mancini might deserve some stick but not /nearly/ as much as he's getting. He's the one that talks to the players but he did! It's the players heads' that needed sorting.

United came in very strong, blasting at us in the beginning and I think that really messed with our players' heads.

You could clearly see our players didn't look match fit today. Well actually, let me reiterate that, the rags were MUCH fitter than us today and it showed. De Jong although decent though, like bite and tenacity. Lescott although not a world beater with pace, often really looked sluggish. Yaya didn't look half as fit as near the end of last season, just to name a few.

All in all it was nervousness, lack of tenacity, fitness, composure, and bite that did us in. We can go on and on about tactics, but the changes made SENSE. It's our players today that bottled it. Almost as if they fear the 'other' team. You could almost sense from the players that they felt a lot of pressure to produce after beating United in the Semis.

What we lack is a winning mentality that the rags have. How do we get this mentality? KEEP winning and playing together.

This loss is a positive one for City and Untied.
For City: It shows us to not be complacent. Every match needs to be won. It shows us not to get our heads too big and fight like we did in the Semis and the streak of form towards the end of last season. This loss will drive us to produce together as a team and I fully expect a battering of Swansea which will give us an exciting kick start towards the next season. Wins and losses are part of life, and part of supporting and football team. The better team doesn't win every game, as much as we want to believe. Yes, its our rivals, but at the end of the day. The rags will sit on their high horse and next time we face them, we will be out not to be embarrassed again. Embarrassment eh? Yup that's the look you can tell from our players faces at the end added with disappointment. Only good things can come from this loss because our players are going to realize that they did not play like themselves and when this happens, they lose.

For Rags: Probably it will give them a kick start as well for the new season. Their young players will feel confident and their whole team as a whole will benefit from thinking they're world beaters.

Sorry for my long winded post with scattered thoughts. But yessir, that's my opinion.

P.S. If you don't want to read this shite, that's cool. To sum it up, it really wasn't Bobby's fault. Nor was it our individual players. It was a bad performance from our team, like all teams have. Just a shame it was against the rags.

Edit #2: Forgot to mention, if you've ever played football at any level, you KNOW that all those yellows further sunk our mentality. Whether its those looming thoughts that you need fouls to stop United to being complacent so as to not getting sent off.
 
Silva is the new gold said:
Barcon said:
Silva is the new gold said:
Tell me what you disagree with. Two goals against the run of play and other than that it was fucking disgusting. We were bossed by a mdifield that contained Cleverly and fucking Carrick. I Posted earlier on a thread saying I thoguht we were well equipped to play Barca but wouldn't stand a chance against Real. Well I've changed my mind, Barca would kill us. The rags got bossed by Barca, a weaker rag team just completely fucked us over. If we don't give the ball to Silva we can't play, it's as simple as that. They were quicker to every loose ball, they wouldn't let us play a possesion game. Mancini did nothing to fix the onslaught. We need fresh players, it was screaming out to everyone. Mancini decided to keep a player that could have caused real problems on the bench. I've said it before and i'll say it again, Mancini is not good enough.

It's people like you that make me want to kick my fucking laptop across the room. Why don't you do the world a favour and fuck off until the end of the season? A fucking burger flipper stating that Mancini isn't good enough.

You can't disagree with anything inpaticular about the team though. Mancini fails to inspire faith in me, I don't have a clue what he said to the dressing room to make them serve up that shit. I still believe we beat United player for player. However, when you get the team performing like that we'll struggle against a determined Swansea side, let alone some of the european heavyweights. The buck stops with the manager when you have such a talented squad playing like that.

I support what this lad said!
Such a shame that Mancini is such a likeable character but his tactics make me cringe!!! and it doesnt inspire confidence in me, if it doesnt inspire confidence in a viewer how about the lads on the field????

Being a likeable character and someone who knows how to work the squad to its FULL potential are two distinctly different things!!
 

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