COP26

I actually don't see climate change as the most immediate threat because we can come up with strategies to mitigate the worst of its effects. Things like severe weather, greater sea levels etc can all be somewhat mitigated and it's a slow change that will happen progressively over a long period.

What is never discussed at these conferences though is the real problem and that's the destruction of the natural environment. For example, people keep going on that we'll be able to give up meat and eat insects to reduce Co2, however the fact is that insect populations have declined by over 40% in just 30 years! In 50 years time there will be no insects left.

I think you can see it on this forum where the irony of it all is we moan about climate change but then we moan about the price of houses and how we need to build more of them which destroys the environment further.

With all of this in mind it's obvious why it isn't going to work because we are too busy thinking about how much electric cars will cost instead of thinking how we can do without having a car at all. Again it's ironic that Prince William passed on getting the Range Rover built up the road to his Earthshot conference but he happily took an £80k electric Audi. This is an Audi that was no doubt built in a carbon guzzling factory in Germany, sent on a carbon guzzling ship to his front door. Why didn't he just get the train?

Perhaps the only way technology will save us is thanks to people like Elon Musk who acknowledges the planet is eventually going to be stuffed so he's coming up with as many ways as possible to get us off it....



I was only reading about a local initiative for green spaces this week

I completely agree about the building of houses n’all. The population of this country doesn’t need to get bigger, we don’t want increase in immigration added to the birth>death rate that’s already here because all it will do is destroy more natural habitats and ecosystems to house them all.

If anything we need to be reducing our population.
 
it only takes a couple of minutes to fill my gas guzzler up for a week, if you think the queues for petrol were bad wait until youv'e got people looking to charge their cars up if they don't have a charging point at home when theres about 40million cars on the road. It's all well and good if they sort out the infrastructure but there doesn't seem to be any rush at the moment
Long term, i think cars should be a thing of the past in cities. Unless you drive for a living, or have a disability, nobody living in a city should need a car. The investment, initiatives and inventions should be geared towards Green public transport city-wide, a cycle road network, walking highways… not electric cars.

Since getting rid of my car 18 months or so ago, I’ve not missed it at all. Public transport Manchester is bobbins but I still don’t need a car to get around, get to work and back (4.5miles I just cycle/run/walk and sometimes get the bus), go shopping etc. Nobody needs a car anywhere near as much as they think they do.
 
Long term, i think cars should be a thing of the past in cities. Unless you drive for a living, or have a disability, nobody living in a city should need a car. The investment, initiatives and inventions should be geared towards Green public transport city-wide, a cycle road network, walking highways… not electric cars.

Since getting rid of my car 18 months or so ago, I’ve not missed it at all. Public transport Manchester is bobbins but I still don’t need a car to get around, get to work and back (4.5miles I just cycle/run/walk and sometimes get the bus), go shopping etc. Nobody needs a car anywhere near as much as they think they do.

Totally agree. I live in London and it's staggering the amount of traffic on the roads when public transport is as frequent and wide reaching as it is. Using my mates as a sample, it feels like so many people use their car because it's seen as a significant investment, therefore has to be used to get value out of it, regardless of how short/unnecessary that trip might be. Hopefully the new ULEZ restrictions here have an impact.
 
Long term, i think cars should be a thing of the past in cities. Unless you drive for a living, or have a disability, nobody living in a city should need a car. The investment, initiatives and inventions should be geared towards Green public transport city-wide, a cycle road network, walking highways… not electric cars.

Since getting rid of my car 18 months or so ago, I’ve not missed it at all. Public transport Manchester is bobbins but I still don’t need a car to get around, get to work and back (4.5miles I just cycle/run/walk and sometimes get the bus), go shopping etc. Nobody needs a car anywhere near as much as they think they do.
Good points PC its always a question of change , cars are convenient , the oldest child looks forward to one partly because their friends have one and their is always that holiday to the countryside and that rotten weather that stops you from a wait or delay that a car basically avoids.

Somehow however their are too many globalists and elites and bankers and the list goes on that have a vested interest in having as many city dwellers as possible driving an electric car because its " better for the environment " but they fail to look at the slave labour and death and destruction that is caused at getting the cobalt and lithium currently needed for some of the components needed to make the vehicle.

All I can do is laugh at those greens in the world that used to genuinely care and lobby around these issues that now are more interested in their iphone and " climate change dogma " than they are in man's inhumanity to man and the environment and doing anything constructive to address it.

When someone working in a telemarketing company asking for a small donation each day to help a starving baby gets through to one because they mistakenly think its from a fellow climate extinction nob they quickly hang up and return to their latte and avocado.
 
Culling people is a difficult policy to sell.
Invest in condoms or learn the lessons of the best porn stars in the name of capitalism Bob?

Might be better a tack for the eco system than investing in green hydrogen who knows.

I note that Qatar did their bit for halting population growth in building the infrastructure for the 22 World Cup and have a poor record on woman's rights and homosexuality and the hypocrites will flock to the tournament as opposed to banning their teams from attending so maybe getting the Chinese to fund the next 8 World Cups in developing nations might be an idea as the World won't cry poor despite the cull.
 

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