Coronavirus (2021) thread

[paulchapo]

Just like AIDS, the scientists and medical community will eventually, through hard work, knowledge, a degree of serendipity and experience treat and contain the virus to make it something we can live with without affecting everyday life. I wouldn't be too pessimistic and I'm hopeful this will be the last really challenging year in the fight against Covid.

It isn't the medical side I'm overly worried about we appear to be making great strides there. I'm more worried the government appear to have sweeping powers to impose draconian laws, punitive punishments and restrictions using the virus as a reason. Has a state of emergency been declared, or martial law? If so I've missed it.

 

[paulchapo]

There's a political thread in the sub-forum separately where it will be tolerated.

I'll look for it.

 

[vincent]

Grant Shapps is full of shit. On radio four this morning saying do not book foreign or domestic holidays. I distinctly remember him last year on radio 4 saying there would be no foreign holidays last year and waxing lyrical about holidays in this country and how great they are. Fast forward two months and there he is in Spain having to return early to avoid having to self isolate for 14 days

 

[twosips]

There's a political thread in the sub-forum separately where it will be tolerated.

And by tolerated you mean basically not read as hardly anyone uses that thread. Its just a place for mods to dump any posts from here that mention the Tories as if they are somehow separate from it all, when they're clearly not. If we're talking restrictions we're talking politics.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Just like AIDS, the scientists and medical community will eventually, through hard work, knowledge, a degree of serendipity and experience treat and contain the virus to make it something we can live with without affecting everyday life. I wouldn't be too pessimistic and I'm hopeful this will be the last really challenging year in the fight against Covid.

I’m confident too that we will be on top of the virus this year. What we don’t know is how much lasting damage has been done to to health services across the globe including the NHS. There’s an assumption that as soon as the hospital cases get a bit lower we will start getting back towards normality. The realistic is that this pandemic might do lasting damage to workforces.

Today on Radio 5 Live, a Chief Nurse broke down who has leadership for 4 ICUs and 170 staff in Wales. There is still a big strain on their services that isn’t getting better at the moment. I recall how many people came back from the Gulf wars with PTSD and it’s possible that we may see something similar across health and social care. Fingers crossed we recover well but other posters wanting pubs, gyms and shops to open next week need to understand how damaging the pandemic has been.

 

[hammocity]

It isn't the medical side I'm overly worried about we appear to be making great strides there. I'm more worried the government appear to have sweeping powers to impose draconian laws, punitive punishments and restrictions using the virus as a reason. Has a state of emergency been declared, or martial law? If so I've missed it.

The government has been very liberal, it's a situation without precedent for all of us living through this. The feckless amongst our society have made this an almost impossible task at times and hopefully lessons will have been learnt. My main point was don't be too pessimistic, our law of democracy will always prevail in the end, there's no military Junta in place to impose martial law or declare a state of emergency.

 

[jimharri]

Folks; it's been mentioned plenty of times. If you want to score political points, there's a CV thread in the politics sub forum.

 

[paulchapo]

The government has been very liberal, it's a situation without precedent for all of us living through this. The feckless amongst our society have made this an almost impossible task at times and hopefully lessons will have been learnt. My main point was don't be too pessimistic, our law of democracy will always prevail in the end, there's no military Junta in place to impose martial law or declare a state of emergency.

I'm trying, I really am trying to keep positive but I have reached real low points just recently. This announcement overnight that anyone lying about where they've travelled from can be imprisoned for TEN years astonished me. How can this be possible without parliamentary discussion and a vote? Yet all over the country pandemic or not kids are stabbing and killing one another and I don't see such a huge response to stop that.

It's the constant lies and shifting of the goalposts too. Just six weeks, just three months, just until we have a vaccine, just until the vulnerable are vaccinated, now it's when EVERYONE is vaccinated and as if that's not enough it's now when the whole world is vaccinated. It's like psychological torture.

 

[mosssideblue]

So they walk in stay in their room for 10 days and it’s cleaned when they leave are you telling me it costs over £1000 per person to do this? Maybe i should apply for a job as a cleaner then.

embarrassing

 

[AlgarveBlu]

Be interesting to see how many of those first dose recipients had actually contracted cv previously based on recent findings on the effectiveness of the jab on people who had previously got cv, look forward to the UK version of this graph appearing in a British tabloid near you some time soon without the journo's scary caveats inserted