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Only another 2-3 weeks until the first second doses on mass


I think you have that wrong. We had only done around 1 million by the start of the year. 12 weeks from then is towards the end of March before it starts to go up significantly.

My edit in my first post also quoted the head of the NHS saying today that the rate of vaccinations will double to cover both second shots and the current rate of first shots.
 
There is no reason why the government should not set out when they reopen.
If the data says x, y will open etc...
Everyone knows where they stand.
A proper “roadmap”.
There is no reason why not other than to allow the government and sage to obfuscate and move the goalposts yet again.
It would not be a waste of time and would allow those industries to plan.
How much has hospitality lost having to gamble on ordering food, drink etc... up to the last minute due to late announcements they knew they would make.
I disagree, I think they need to continue to wait so when we do open up, we open up for good this time. Setting out a plan and publicising it, will put more pressure on them for that not to happen and the nearer it gets, the more people start to disobey the rules.

If people know the shops open in two weeks, they’re more likely to break the rules
 
I disagree, I think they need to continue to wait so when we do open up, we open up for good this time. Setting out a plan and publicising it, will put more pressure on them for that not to happen and the nearer it gets, the more people start to disobey the rules.

If people know the shops open in two weeks, they’re more likely to break the rules
There’s only pressure if the data matches what’s declared.

you are supporting the government making it up as they go along.
 
What's people's opinions of a covid passport?
I have no objection to them at all and I will get my jab when it's my turn. All fine.

However I think people who refuse to have it are well within their rights to say no. But will those people risk being shunned from society and discriminated against?
Would this violate human rights?
It's an interesting debate but I dont think it would be fair to say to people you can't go on holiday go to a pub cinema etc as you have refused the vaccination.
 
No, I am not, I am for them keeping it private until is reasonable to not do so.
What’s the problem with saying when the data does this, then we can allow that?
Is the wider British public too thick?
 
Must admit, I find my crossing my fingers that my parents are offered the Pfizer one when its their turn. I can't be alone in sharing similar views re their own families.
Horses for courses.
I don't care to be honest, but I actually hope I get the Astrazenica jab as one jab is 100% effective at preventing serious illness after 22 days. The Pfizer vaccine is only 92% effective.
 
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What's people's opinions of a covid passport?
I have no objection to them at all and I will get my jab when it's my turn. All fine.

However I think people who refuse to have it are well within their rights to say no. But will those people risk being shunned from society and discriminated against?
Would this violate human rights?
It's an interesting debate but I dont think it would be fair to say to people you can't go on holiday go to a pub cinema etc as you have refused the vaccination.
Not keen but, let's be honest, it's the only way any one will be able to go abroad on holiday for the next 2 years.
 
bail out while you can. Trust me one day she will take your house off you.

good day by the way.
I shouldn't laugh but I'm going through similar and that comment made me spit out my 'lightly toasted sourdoug' bread I'd just been dipping in my 'winter chicken soup'...
 
What’s the problem with saying when the data does this, then we can allow that?
Is the wider British public too thick?
No they are not, however a significant enough proportion, whilst still a minority, will set us back if they think it’s nearly over.
 
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