Coronavirus (2021) thread

[drthingy]

Got a bit of a moral dilemma tonight.... i work as a psychotherapist and got an email tonight from the BACP - the regulator saying I can jump the queue and get a vaccine because I work with lots of vulnerable people. Will sleep on it... but not sure I want to jump the queue - I have no underlying health concerns so my instinct is to wait my turn... Any views?

Not jumping the queue it shouldn't have been put to you that way. There are a lot of people going to need your skills now and in the future. So get the jab.

 

[worsleyweb]

Sounds to me like she is repeating what has basically been said by the government during the week .

she is effectively a local councilor and represents 5 million people. Significantly less than live in the North West, Far too much to say for herself.

Aside from that just walked to Piccadilly from Ancoats - busier than i have seen it for months and a hint of spring in the air.

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths

By region

81 Midlands. 48 East. 47 NE & Yorkshire. 44 South East. 42 North West, 38 London, 9 South West

6 each in Countess of Chester, St Helens and Pennine Acute most in NW.

Birmingham 11, Bedfordshire 11 and East Kent 10 the only trusts with double figures.

 

[Healdplace]

309 England hospital deaths by age

20 - 39 (6) 2.0%

40- 59 (26) 8.4%

60 - 79 (123) 39.8%

80 PLUS (154) 49.8%



Much the same pattern as we have been seeing. Now a week since we had over 50% for the over 80s.

Under 60s being above 10% getting more common too.

Not because more are dying but very likely as fewer percentage wise are being stopped from dying by the vaccine that will not yet be of any numbers in those age ranges. But is primarily in the over 80s just now hence its impact being most apparent there.

This will change as the age range of the vaccinated accelerates but as the vast percentage of the those dying is in the over 60s not clear how far this change can go.

The big drop in overall numbers is really the better guide to success from both lockdown and vaccine.

 

[twosips]

If we're at 300 now and deaths are based on a 2/3 week lag from cases, there is surely no way we're not gonna be getting sub 100 days soon enough right?

 

[Healdplace]

I see more reports today about the big fall in cases around the world.

As these seem to be in areas with different demographics, seasons, vaccination progress and so on what is happening here?

Hard not to wonder if maybe the virus is becoming less problematic via a combination of things.

Great news if true either way.

Also hard not to wonder if the mutations are not speeding up the point where we reach a virus that is liveable with by humanity. The end game really for both us and the virus as it creates a balance point that sees us stop trying to eradicate it and the virus needing to respond to ways it is being eradicated.

Maybe we get lucky and that is how this pans out.

 

[Healdplace]

If we're at 300 now and deaths are based on a 2/3 week lag from cases, there is surely no way we're not gonna be getting sub 100 days soon enough right?

You would hope so. But we have to balance that against the erosion of lockdown which is clearly waning - understandably - as more and more seem to rebel.

Cases are slowing in their fall and any stall will impact the fall in death figures.

Just depends on how much impact the vaccine does have on creating cases that are a problem (as in needing hospitalisation and or risking deaths).

As cases in of themselves are not that big a deal if these other measures fall via the vaccine roll out.

Both are right now and hospital data will change before deaths if this starts to reverse in any way.

Why I report it here every evening as it is the key set of numbers to watch at the moment.

 

[Healdplace]

Wales vaccination stats:

80.1% of all over 80s have been vaccinated.

91.9% of those aged 75 - 79 have been.

91.1% of those aged 70 - 74 have been.

In care homes the numbers are 85.1% of staff and 82.9% of residents.

 

[Healdplace]

Of the 309 England hospital deaths patients were aged between 21 and 101.

11 of them - aged between 42 and 96 - had no known prior underlying conditions.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

422,576 first doses and 4497 second doses administered in England yesterday.

No sign of the pace slackening thankfully.