Coronavirus (2021) thread

Healdplace

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279 England hospital deaths by region:

58 NE & Yorkshire, 57 North West, 54 Midlands, 46 South East, 26 London, 26 East. 12 South West

22 in North Cumbria highest today.

This is not the first time in past week this trust has had the most UK deaths. Anyone know why?

Dartford at 16 the only other high number.

In the North Wesr Pennine Acute at 9 is the most and 7 in East Lancashire.
 

Healdplace

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England hospital deaths wk to wk:

875 / 109 NW / 13%

767 / 111 NW/ 15%

509 / 109 NW / 21%

474 / 112 NW / 24%

372 / 58 NW / 16%

279 / 57 NW / 20% Today


As you can see the NW percentage is still high but often is with the weekend data.

But overall the numbers are tumbling faster than anyone likely dared hope.
 

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I read similar about UK health workers, something like 25% not taking.

I couldnt really fathom why that would be.

Unless they can't have it for health reasons they should be sacked. They have a duty of care to people they are looking after. Might seem harsh but the more people that turn it down, the longer this will go on and the more lives it will destroy.
 

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Total deaths with out of hospital England to add (usually a largish weekend catch up add on) is 315

wk to wk:-

986 v 849 v 587 v 540 v 437 v 315 Today
 

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Unless they can't have it for health reasons they should be sacked. They have a duty of care to people they are looking after. Might seem harsh but the more people that turn it down, the longer this will go on and the more lives it will destroy.
More should be done to increase take up but employers are a bit hamstrung in the measure they can take because of big staff vacancies. Brexit might make this worse
 

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Unless they can't have it for health reasons they should be sacked. They have a duty of care to people they are looking after. Might seem harsh but the more people that turn it down, the longer this will go on and the more lives it will destroy.
It's totally bizarre that someone working in the health care sector should be opposed to medical care involving drugs. It's impossible to see how someone who presents a health risk (by not being vaccinated) should be allowed to work with vulnerable people.
 

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Total cases wk to wk:

2944 v 2169 v 1815 v 1448 v 1197 v 861 Today.

Another sub 1000 3 nations total and good week to week fall.

Based on this you would expect a possible rise in UK numbers to somewhere in the high 6000s.

It is predictable to judge trends in different nations but we will see.
 

artfuldodger

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More should be done to increase take up but employers are a bit hamstrung in the measure they can take because of big staff vacancies. Brexit might make this worse
I agree. It’s difficult to recruit carers and it’s not a job many want to do. My mother is receiving end of life care at home and we have carers 4 times per day. I would struggle to do some of tasks they do, with my own mother, never mind with strangers. I marvel at their dedication every day. I don’t think employers are in a position to sack those who refuse a vaccine as they’ve noone to take their place.
 

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More should be done to increase take up but employers are a bit hamstrung in the measure they can take because of big staff vacancies. Brexit might make this worse
Employers can make reasonable demands on employees these days for example in certain professions concerning things like smoking and drinking and the wearing of certain clothing , grooming etc even in an office or retail environment.

Just like all people with symptoms would be encouraged to come forward and have a test for covid all staff can be requested to come forward and be vaccinated at designated hubs and centres etc.

the most important people to vaccinate are those at highest risk and they should be given preference.

then you move through the population.

Even when as many as can be are vaccinated and may require boosters with the passage of time like influenza for example you will still have cases and spread but hopefully good anti viral treatment like some which are proving already to increase the immunity to fight off the disease in elderly people taken with zinc upon early onset along with good quarantine tracing and protective measures with prevention will ensure like can on as normal as before without the requirement for further lockdowns which do a lot more damage to mental health , prevention of diagnosis for many other diseases , the economy , lives , livelihoods and social norms and democracy and basic freedoms than the damage caused by covid.
 

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