Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Tim of the Oak]

At some stage they are going to have to open up as you can't have closed borders forever (unless you are North Korea). Presumably after they have vaccinated the whole population but, as vaccinations are not 100% effective, they will start to have cases even if only at a low and potentially acceptable (elsewhere at any rate) level. I wonder if they are prepared for that?

Why don’t people on here compare Israel with North Korea. There are a lot more similarities compared to New Zealand.

By opening up do you mean looking for international tourists? There’s been tens of thousands of people at music festivals and sporting events every weekend for the last year, in New Zealand.

Btw, I’m not making a comparison with the U.K. I’m just pointing out that you can open up domestically and have an element of international travel when Countries tackle the virus appropriately. That’s why I highlighted the Kiwis becoming world champions in Southampton.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

My mistake - seems it was only developing countries they were selling it to at cost price:

Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine to be sold to developing countries at cost price

Jab that is part of global initiative to distribute doses will remain at low price ‘in perpetuity’

www.theguardian.com

*During* the pandemic, all AZ supply is at cost price (it's way cheaper than Pfizer, like 4x cheaper or something)

*After* the pandemic they can increase the price.

Definition of the end of the pandemic may be debatable.

 

[Healdplace]

Wales data:

Unfortunately it is going where the rest is going.

0 deaths - was 0 last week

438 cases - was 140 last week

2.8% positivity - was 1.2% last week

I do not need to tell you this is quite a big increase.

This is what happens when you do not stop people coming in like Nicola Sturgeon tried but Drakeford realised was impossible.

Neither is right or wrong. We are just beyond the point where we now can stop this variant ripping through the UK.

We can only hope it does not create enough cases to - even with a happily much smaller percentage getting really sick - overwhelm the NHS.

If this were pre vaccine we would 100% be in full national lockdown again now. The vaccine that internet warrriors think is some kind of mind control mechanism or should have spent two years in thorough testing to be 101% sure it has no issues is the only reason they have any chance of regaining some kind of normal life any time soon. It is mitigating the impact enough to hopefully stop the worst from happening.

 

[Manc in London]

Had my first jab 2 months ago - I'm 47

Just been to Leeds to visit mates at the weekend and now just tested positive for covid

Feel like shit - hot and cold - headache - sore throat

There's always a chance of getting Covid, more so after one jab rather than two. However, having had the jab, you are much less likely to be as ill as you would have been had you not been vaccinated.

Hopefully, that's as bad as things get for you.

 

[Manc in London]

FWIW, I see New Zealand still haven’t had a case of Covid being caught in the community since 28th February. They are allowing some international travel because their men’s cricket team became World Champions (in Southampton) yesterday.

The Kiwis are remaining vigilant and keeping an eye on the new Covid cases in Oz.

They are indeed but Covid will likely make it's way into their country in a significant way some time in the future. I guess it depends on how many are vaccinated by the time they open their borders. I was reading an article the other day about the Australian government being concerned that take up of the vaccine may not be as high as they want as many have not been ill themselves or witnessed it's impact on their families and communities. Maybe this could happen in other countries such as NZ.

 

[Del_Bosque]

looking good

 

[Healdplace]

looking good

Do I read that as saying almost ten times as many people are testing positive unvaccinated v those double vaccinated. And about 5 times more than those single vaccinated?

If so that looks pretty good. And why we can get out of this mess in coming weeks.

 

[splinter]

British grand prix : Silverstone to have capacity crowd for July race. 18th July Any blues going

 

[BlueHammer85]

amazing how we can go from 16,000+ new cases to announce the next day there will be 160,000 capacity for Silverstone and all restrictions all set to be lifted July 19th.

there must be little concern about these high case numbers

what a job the vaccine is doing

 

[splinter]

amazing how we can go from 16,000+ new cases to announce the next day there will be 160,000 capacity for Silverstone and all restrictions all set to be lifted July 19th.

there must be little concern about these high case numbers

what a job the vaccine is doing

19 July is definitely on then..might dig out my old raving shoes