Coronavirus (2021) thread

[marco]

We certainly won't have seen the last of these varients, but it's really not in the virus's best interest to kill more people, it just wants to be more effective at spreading, if it kills all it's hosts, it kills itself.

i dont doubt you for one minute there mate but how does the virus know what the tolerance of a human is, if the virus has infected say 10 people and one dies the other viruses dont know that so there would be no point in mutating, they have done there job by infecting the body so why mutate or upgrade there armour so to say

 

[Indaparkside]

I wonder once this is over/ under control how many vulnerable/ old people will still self isolate through fear maybe never getting back to how they lived before last March, such a sad thought really but it will no doubt happen

 

[marco]

I wonder once this is over/ under control how many vulnerable/ old people will still self isolate through fear maybe never getting back to how they lived before last March, such a sad thought really but it will no doubt happen

its very sad mate ,the old people i know are very scared now seeing all these deaths,most wont step out of the doorway some have not been out for over a year,if the virus dosnt get them then there mental health will

 

[cleavers]

Thomas Malthus agrees with you

I've absolutely no idea who he is.

 

[cleavers]

i dont doubt you for one minute there mate but how does the virus know what the tolerance of a human is, if the virus has infected say 10 people and one dies the other viruses dont know that so there would be no point in mutating, they have done there job by infecting the body so why mutate or upgrade there armour so to say

You need to ask a better scientist than me that question, but a virus can only exist if it has a host, if it can't find one it dies, we might be able to kill this one eventually, we've certainly killed others in the past.

One thing with this one, we've created a huge number of new treatments and vaccines very quickly, so the good thing is it's improved our science.

 

[paulchapo]

It's a fecking disgrace. The Supermarkets clearly lied through their teeth a week and a half ago.

They are making vast profits as they're the only places open, get more staff/security and tell these dumb fuckers either one of them stays in the car with the kids while one does the shopping or they go elsewhere. Same with young fit couples, one goes in and buys the stuff one stays outside. Of course they may wise up and split up before getting there like groups of lads used to do getting in clubs years ago, but at the moment it is bedlam again in there.

 

[Indaparkside]

its very sad mate ,the old people i know are very scared now seeing all these deaths,most wont step out of the doorway some have not been out for over a year,if the virus dosnt get them then there mental health will

Yes pal probably wont-even let there family in through fear of catching it, when things are back to normal we should knock on there door retreat out of the garden just to chat or see if they need any shopping, being old is no fun at the best of times I can’t begin to imagine how they must feel

 

[HolisticJim]

It's time supermarkets started doing their bit aside from adverts going on about masks and only one person shopping, but then doing bugger all to enforce any of these rules.

I went to do my weekly shop at Aldi today. Although not overly busy, I'd try to time it so it wasn't, there was still couples and whole families shopping. Kids running about grabbing stuff,none in masks, sitting on the counter at the back where you pack your shopping, it winds me up.

Food shopping is the only place I mix now. I have no choice but to go there or I'll starve and deliveries are once again booked up in advance. I understand single parents may have no option but to take their kids but the majority were full families. I feel like I'm playing bloody Russian roulette once a week.

I completely agree. Absolute wankers. Shopping is the only place I go and whole families in there as you say.

And if I see another one in there with a mask under their nose I think ill put my can of diet Pepsi through their face.
Really annoyed me today....mum, dad, young teen kid and gran all with masks under their noses.

 

[Marvin]

I've absolutely no idea who he is.

You will have come across his arguments and his name many many times. Impossible not too.

 

[AltrinchamBlue]

i dont doubt you for one minute there mate but how does the virus know what the tolerance of a human is, if the virus has infected say 10 people and one dies the other viruses dont know that so there would be no point in mutating, they have done there job by infecting the body so why mutate or upgrade there armour so to say

The virus doesn’t know, and we should try and understand that evolution, which is what mutations drive, does not have a ‘will’. Mutations are chance events. And it is only the mutations which provide an increased chance of survival (in this case, increased transmissibility) which then go on to be more successful and reproduce. It’s why the really nasty virus’s, Ebola for example, don’t spread like this. They kill the host too quickly and therefore can not replicate.

It’s important to appreciate that there has probably been a number of mutations which have occurred in the UK since this began. However, if a new mutation occurred which meant the virus is 50% more deadly but at the expense of its transmissibility - well it won’t cause any further damage.

I get what you’re saying there too, but the virus’s ‘job’, so to speak, isn’t to infect hosts. It is to replicate. It does that by infecting hosts yes but once you see it that way, it’s much clearer as to why its ability to spread is so important and why as far as we know, it’s very similar mutations that we are seeing here, in SA etc. That’s the key mutation in the amino acid chain which really drives its transmissibility.