Coronavirus (2021) thread

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The US will be another country to regret the way they handled the Oxford vaccine.

In the EU the regulator approved it, but individual govts decided only to use with u65s, which obviously makes people wary. Then there was the whole clusterfuck on supply. So political idiocy.

US is a bit different - the regulator asked for more data. So a more a question of medical certainty.

These regulators are genuinely pretty independent of political influence.

But I'm very pleased we did what we did.
 
The eighty year olds grew up with rationing, ffs.

But they had affordable housing and plentiful social housing, early retirement, free travel, winter fuel payments, free TV licences etc.;) Unlikely these will be around in the next few years. I would also suggest food poverty is very high in this country.

Anyway, we digress.
 
England hospital data:-

More good news.

Two days of data due to tech issues yesterday - still positive.

Patients:-

Fell 626 yesterday and 504 today to stand at 13, 007 patients - was 16, 458 last Wednesday.

It was 34, 336 at the peak on 18 Jan - so down over 21,000 in 37 days.

It was last lower than today on 5 December.


Ventilators:-

Fell 116 yesterday and 25 today to stand at 1931 - was 2393 last Wednesday

It was 3736 at the peak on 21 Jan so down 1805 - almost halved - in 34 days.

It was last lower than today on New Year's Eve.


Regionally P // V

East 1521 - 1474 - 1416 - was 1780 // 164 - 156 - 148 - was 198

London 2737 - 2490 - 2503 - was 3292 // 653 - 552 - 604 - was 749

Midlands 3080 - 3003 - 2875 - was 3325 // 421 - 413 - 387 - was 455

NE & Yorkshire 2118 - 2076 - 1947 - was 2391 // 248 - 247 - 237 - was 280

North West 2078 - 1978 - 1938 - was 2391 // 256 - 251 - 237 - was 289

South East 1860 - 1859 - 1686 - was 2349 // 234 - 249 - 232 - was 305

South West 743 - 631 - 640 - was 930 // 90 - 88 - 86 - was 117

Good falls continue more or less everywhere
 
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In the EU the regulator approved it, but individual govts decided only to use with u65s, which obviously makes people wary. Then there was the whole clusterfuck on supply. So political idiocy.

US is a bit different - the regulator asked for more data. So a more a question of medical certainty.

These regulators are genuinely pretty independent of political influence.

But I'm very pleased we did what we did.
Me too. It was a risk but in the circumstances one we really needed to take.
 
England hospital data:-

More good news.

Two days of data due to tech issues yesterday - still positive.

Patients:-

Fell 626 yesterday and 504 today to stand at 13, 007 patients - was 16, 458 last Wednesday.
Fantastic news - nearing 25% drop in patient numbers in just a week. Shame we don't hear more about these metrics on the BBC.
 
Eliminating the PCR tests the Positivity rating today is 3.3% by the way. That is well below the WHO guidelines of getting this number below 5%.

Early this year we were around 15 - 20%.
 
Interesting chat in here on the subject of potentially letting the oldies travel first.

Can certainly see both sides of the argument, and in particular there is a possible grey area surrounding family travel this summer, but the industry is on it's fucking knees and anything that might help stimulate things is a good thing in my eyes. We, as an industry, are absolutely desperate.

We're not talking about millions of pensioners suddenly going wild in Europe and rubbing all our faces in it. The noises from Greece, and they are only noises, is that they may permit double vaccinated people from the UK in May (would have to be 17th onwards due to restrictions this end)

If Doris and Bill have had all their required jabs and there is agreement in place between both countries that they can travel and return without issue, then let them have their week in Corfu or whatever it might be.

Yes, in an ideal world everyone would be ''released'' at the same time, but COVID life isn't an ideal world and we should welcome any returning steps towards normality, even if not everyone can benefit from them immediately.

And I'm speaking as a relatively young 33 year old, who likely won't be jabbed until the summer at the earliest.

But don't tell Doris and Bill that I went abroad 7 times last year ;)
 
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