Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Healdplace said:
Day to day tells you little. Trends matter most. 4 deaths today are equally misleading. They will likely be up tomorrow and that would be equally wrong to consider significant.

But again like with the cases the trends are in the right direction over the past week or so. That is the thing to watch.
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You have been excellent in this thread throughout.
Being polite however, I hope your daily updates will become irrelevant very quickly whilst we begin to see wider acceptance of limited number of deaths (JVT called 20 a day acceptable) and vaccine effect works.
 
Independent reporting news carried by the Times. Yes I know that's strange. Anyway...

"We will have a lot to say about the booster programme soon. It’s looking really positive so far...“We think that the level of protection in the population to any variant will be so high that, by Christmas, Covid-19 should have just faded into the background like any other illness in circulation.”

And another story: Porton-down to be involved in research against new variants including vaccines
 
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Marvin said:
Independent reporting news carried by the Times. Yes I know that's strange. Anyway...

"We will have a lot to say about the booster programme soon. It’s looking really positive so far...“We think that the level of protection in the population to any variant will be so high that, by Christmas, Covid-19 should have just faded into the background like any other illness in circulation.”

And another story: Porton-down to be involved in research against new variants including vaccines
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That's a very positive statement. The conspiracy theorists will be gutted that their perfect utopia of us being locked down forever is crumbling before their very eyes.
 
Marvin said:
Independent reporting news carried by the Times. Yes I know that's strange. Anyway...

"We will have a lot to say about the booster programme soon. It’s looking really positive so far...“We think that the level of protection in the population to any variant will be so high that, by Christmas, Covid-19 should have just faded into the background like any other illness in circulation.”

And another story: Porton-down to be involved in research against new variants including vaccines
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A bit more detail about the Times article as it is behind a paywall.

Chris Whitty is supervising this work and there are two approaches:

New versions of existing vaccines.

Booster shots of Pfizer or AZ.

Both approaches are indicating good results.

They would be offered to all over 50s and those with vulnerabilities and they would be delivered at the same time as the flu jab but in the other arm.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
I think some people are prepared to wait a bit longer to get their second jab closer to home, based on some people I know. I just went back to the same vaccination centre.
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You're right. Take a look at Mumsnet (no, don't) and see several women deciding to delay their pre-booked second jab a few days or so to help with childcare or get a closer appointment. I expect were prioritising the first jab over everything earlier in the year.
 
Parts of Wales now so far ahead they are inviting 18 to 29 year olds for their first jab.

Both Cardiff and the North Wales coast area are now doing this.

Wales has vaccinated the highest proportion of population of the UK nations.

The very low case numbers are a consequence it seems. See below.
 
Wales data:

0 deaths - was 0 last week

54 cases - was 97 last week (this is v last week from the two days this was).

It was 35 last Wednesday but that was only for the previous 24 hours. Which the above is not.
 
BBC North West has finally discovered Bolton cases are second highest in UK. Hyndburn being higher.

They are using 6 day old data of course. And Hyndburn was just a short localised outbreak already way down. Why I never mentioned it.

Bolton IS the worst not second worst and has been for a few days.

But that will be next week's news on the BBC.

They have though reported only 24 hours later than this column all the NW hospital problems and numbers over the past few days that was in last nights hospital data in here catching up from over the Bank Holiday weekend when none was reported.

If you are reading this BBC North West...keep reading. And using anything you spot here. I used to work for you so wherever you are sourcing the data. :)

Of course, I am joking and expect it probably is not being sourced in here - so well done - much better than the BBC national news often days behind on the hospital data.
 
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England hospital deaths as I warned yesterday IS up.

Because it was depressed yesterday by the long Bank Holiday.

But not a disaster.

25 with 1 from the NW. That 1 was in Stockport.

However, 3 are from last year and 6 not within the past month

Last week was 20 with 4 NW, Wk before 25 with 4 NW, Wk before 26 with 5 NW and Wk before 42 with 8 NW.

This looks like a serious plateau but bear 2 things in mind.

The Bank Holiday and Easter are both in those first 4 numbers during which meant lack of Monday registering led to a higher than usual catch up on Wednesday.

So no need to panic just yet. Though - as I noted - in the hospital report last night there are some small signs of an increase in the region over the Bank Holiday in patient data but it is wise to see how this settles over the next few days before assuming it is meaningful.

The NW was up week to week in patient numbers as I pointed out (and so did the BBC NW news just now making me wonder if they had really looked that comparison up directly) - but in truth it was by ONE patient. So not yet a real problem. If it goes down today not up, of course. We will see later.
 
splinter said:
Indian and South African variants in Bolton so says the muen..
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That was what I was worried about and concerned as I have noted that it seems to have taken a week for the Bolton spike to be noticed outside of in here.

A week is a long time in Covid cases.

Hopefully the falls in Zoe App in Chorley then Bolton come true and in this wasted week looking at 6 day old data before it happened this has not now been allowed to spread all over GM.

As I said yesterday this is what happened last July and August and Bolton again started off what became months of lockdown in Greater Manchester.

We are in a different place to then but even so the lack of awareness of what was happening in Bolton as it had yet to show on the official 6 day data was bothering me.

As I have said before it is why I never use it in here even though it is a bit more accurate on day to allocation.
 
Scotland by the way have flagged up a possible testing issue across the UK today that may be depressing case numbers everywhere.

They say there have been 'data flow issues' from UK Gov testing sites since this time yesterday. And these might have been a factor in the low case numbers being reported across the UK today.

Or may not as they do not seem remarkably low based on recent numbers.

But seems as if some of that data may have gone walkabout.
 
artfuldodger said:
How reluctant?
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There's a wealth of vaccination data breakdown to the nth degree here

www.england.nhs.uk

Statistics » Vaccinations: COVID-19

Statistics » Vaccinations: COVID-19
www.england.nhs.uk www.england.nhs.uk

The current overall UK adult vaccination percentage (1st doses) is reported as ~66%

Looking at the three Bolton constituencies they report from that link

Pop 16+Vaccinated% vaccinated
Bolton North East
86,481​
46,844​
54%​
Bolton South East
92,666​
45,777​
49%​
Bolton West
85,081​
51,828​
61%​

The data is a week old, but it looks like Bolton as a whole is a fair way behind the UK, and Bolton SE lagging the most. I don't know Bolton at all but I'm guessing Bolton West is the posh bit!
 
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