Coronavirus (2022) thread

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Does anyone know, with the new rules that you only get a PCR if you have symptoms, does that apply if someone in your house tests positive? I’m just aware that my daughter only got a PCR after her husband tested positive on a lft. Her lft results were negative all through her isolation, as were the children, but the PCR showed them all as positive.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Sure. Which is why there were 2,000 people a day or so hospitalised with it last week.

Just like when a cold is going around.

(If anyone has seen an actual evaluation of severity, I'd be interested)

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And how many deaths you smug one trick pony thunderclit?

About 1/3rd of the daily deaths during the flu season of 17/18.

Just usually we don’t have weird cunts like you obsessing over the daily figures. Now get off my dick and jog on.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
We should start a new thread maybe: "If you think COVID is bad, what about [insert pandemic of choice]"

The black death killed around half of the entire European population.

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I don’t care that much to carry this on haha but the Black Death is estimated to have killed up to 200,000,000 with further plagues adding 25,000,000. Smallpox has killed double that.
 
Octavian said:
I don’t care that much to carry this on haha but the Black Death is estimated to have killed up to 200,000,000 with further plagues adding 25,000,000. Smallpox has killed double that.
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COVID's initially harsh severity comes pretty much from the fact that our immune system hasn't seen it before. That has now changed and we're a long way away from where we were in March 2020. Today there is no reason to lock anything down or do anything to stop people from dying because very few will die.

The virus is no longer a problem in terms of severity, not because of less severe variants but rather thanks to the vaccines. However, the critical thing now is going to be healthcare capacity but that is because this government has run down healthcare over the last 12 years so we're in perhaps a worse position than most.

There's a big argument now for the biggest spending increase in the history in the NHS. We cannot go back to normal which means reverting back to a position of ignoring the real problems that exist in healthcare.

As it stands, you're in a bad place if you decide to start snuffing it at the moment and that isn't because we obsess over COVID, it's because of the really huge problems in the NHS that COVID has exposed.
 
artfuldodger said:
Does anyone know, with the new rules that you only get a PCR if you have symptoms, does that apply if someone in your house tests positive? I’m just aware that my daughter only got a PCR after her husband tested positive on a lft. Her lft results were negative all through her isolation, as were the children, but the PCR showed them all as positive.
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Seven days isolation if she's had 2 jabs. Same with the children, although the jab rule doesn't apply them.
She'll still need 2 clear LFT for day 6&7
www.gov.uk

Self-isolation for COVID-19 cases reduced from 10 to 7 days following negative LFD tests

From today, new guidance enables the 10-day self-isolation period for people who have tested positive for coronavirus (COVID-19) to be reduced to 7 days, in most cases.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
 
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roubaixtuesday said:
Sure. Which is why there were 2,000 people a day or so hospitalised with it last week.

Just like when a cold is going around.

(If anyone has seen an actual evaluation of severity, I'd be interested)

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Over 60% were hospitalised for somthing else and just happened to test positive or caught it in hospital for something else and around 15% are still Delta and a lot of the rest were unvaccinated.
The published statistics are useless to measure Omicron. We need to know jab status, WITH or OF Covid etc.
 
inbetween said:
COVID's initially harsh severity comes pretty much from the fact that our immune system hasn't seen it before. That has now changed and we're a long way away from where we were in March 2020. Today there is no reason to lock anything down or do anything to stop people from dying because very few will die.

The virus is no longer a problem in terms of severity, not because of less severe variants but rather thanks to the vaccines. However, the critical thing now is going to be healthcare capacity but that is because this government has run down healthcare over the last 12 years so we're in perhaps a worse position than most.

There's a big argument now for the biggest spending increase in the history in the NHS. We cannot go back to normal which means reverting back to a position of ignoring the real problems that exist in healthcare.

As it stands, you're in a bad place if you decide to start snuffing it at the moment and that isn't because we obsess over COVID, it's because of the really huge problems in the NHS that COVID has exposed.
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Did you respond to the wrong guy ?
 
mackenzie said:
I've had "proper" flu twice in my 57 years. Wiped me out and I thought I would never get well again, but I did.
I haven't had Covid so far though (touch wood) and I've been in the office all the way through it. So, what I'm asking is, will we eventually see people with Covid, who perhaps have no symptoms other than a bit of a cold/sore throat etc (which my partners 74 year old dad had last week..."Covid" for the second time for him) being allowed into the workplace soon? As we did before when colds/chest infections could still be transferred to the vulnerable?
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Just like you I had proper flu in the mid 90’s and Christmas 1999 (miserable New Years Eve). Up until then I used to get a really bad summer and winter cold every year- up to 40 years old.

Since the flu bouts I’ve not had a cold of any significance, just a coincidence maybe?

I’d define proper flu as the body shuts down, all you do is sleep, drink and piss, accompanied by going from the shivers to an uncomfortably high temperature, no appetite and no interest in anything, worst illness I’ve had including Covid.
 
hammocity said:
Just like you I had proper flu in the mid 90’s and Christmas 1999 (miserable New Years Eve). Up until then I used to get a really bad summer and winter cold every year- up to 40 years old.

Since the flu bouts I’ve not had a cold of any significance, just a coincidence maybe?

I’d define proper flu as the body shuts down, all you do is sleep, drink and piss, accompanied by going from the shivers to an uncomfortably high temperature, no appetite and no interest in anything, worst illness I’ve had including Covid.
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I had swine flu back in 2010 that was awful, I couldn’t get out of bed for 3 weeks, couldn’t eat, high temperature and waking up with sweats. I don’t think I’ve ever been as ill as that. Had covid back in September didn’t feel anything near like swine flu did, the Astra Zeneca jabs did what they were supposed to do.
 
uk.news.yahoo.com

Lateral flow tests are being examined by researchers amid Omicron detection concerns

Researchers are examining the reliability of lateral flow tests at detecting Omicron amid concerns over their accuracy, the German government said. Health Minister Karl Lauterbach said on Sunday the Paul Ehrlich Institute, a health oversight body, is reviewing hundreds of rapid antigen tests on...
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German Gov are reviweing all the lateral flow tests due to concerns that some are not picking up Omicon.

It could explain a lot of hit and miss reports.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Sure. Which is why there were 2,000 people a day or so hospitalised with it last week.

Just like when a cold is going around.

(If anyone has seen an actual evaluation of severity, I'd be interested)

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I wonder how many people would be admitted to hospital with a cold every winter if everyone was tested for one every time they stepped into a hospital, and the results uploaded to a government dashboard.

I suspect it might look something like the above.
 
Given that you have been discussing hospital admission data on here today here are the last three weeks of daily England admissions that I posted on the data thread yesterday as it seems relevant:


The trend appears to be it rose as London peaked and has since been flattening as London falls. But other regions are now coming on stream (North West is currently the epicentre but admissions are up too in Midlands and NE & Yorkshire). Suggesting for a week or so numbers are bound to stay highish but seem unlikely to skyrocket based on London. And if these regions fall as quickly as London did we may see falling everywhere in a couple of weeks.

Here are the last three weeks of admission numbers daily in England from 18 Dec onward to last Friday

735 - 926 - 1061 - 1098 - 1246 - 1252 - 1020

1281 - 1374 - 1751 - 2082 - 2370 - 2114 - 1781

1819 - 1881 - 2219 - 2101 - 2139 -2043 - 1772

It was 1862 yesterday (or rather Saturday as the admissions data are always 48 hours behind) V 1819 last week

So it is up again on the day but the rate of increase seems to be decreasing - note - 735 - 1281 - 1819 - 1862 across these four Saturdays.
 
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