Coronavirus (2022) thread

[Healdplace]

Not the thread for us to discuss numbers in detail (we should do so in the data thread I imagine so as not to upset anyone here) but Greater Manchester is massively down and clearly falling here.

Nine days ago it had its highest ever - 12,078 - it then started to drop.Last night it was a third of that on 4746 cases half of the 9180 same day last week.

I do agree,Alan Harper's Tash, that there will be ups and downs in case data due to the vagaries of reporting - it is never very even - but the trend is what matters and is visibly well down wherever you look.

Zoe's graph just affirms that.

 

[Scottyboi]

The beg is strong.

 

[Healdplace]

Headlines

270 all settings deaths

99,652 cases - first sub 100K in weeks

87,857 in England - lowest since 21 December

England patients fall again for fourth straight day - by 179 to 16,537

Ventilators also down again by 29 to 637.

Anything else on the data thread later

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

These pricks in the press just can’t give it a rest can they.

 

[Vic]

These pricks in the press just can’t give it a rest can they.

Oh gosh - not more science. How will we cope?

 

[Vic]

Headlines

270 all settings deaths

99,652 cases - first sub 100K in weeks

87,857 in England - lowest since 21 December

England patients fall again for fourth straight day - by 179 to 16,537

Ventilators also down again by 29 to 637.

Anything else on the data thread later

People in hospital - not had the vaccine.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

These pricks in the press just can’t give it a rest can they.

Typical Guardian twisting of the story. Its not SAGE saying that but a team at Warwick University who might have input into SAGE but who have done a bit of modelling.

The worst one when they reported an ICL model which had an extreme worst case scenario of 6000 deaths a DAY with the lead story saying 'Scientists Predict 6000 Daily Deaths'.

It's a click bait pile of shite on a par with the Mail.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Typical Guardian twisting of the story. Its not SAGE saying that but a team at Warwick University who might have input into SAGE but who have done a bit of modelling.

The worst one when they reported an ICL model which had an extreme worst case scenario of 6000 deaths a DAY with the lead story saying 'Scientists Predict 6000 Daily Deaths'.

It's a click bait pile of shite on a par with the Mail.

Yep, exactly.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Oh gosh - not more science. How will we cope?

It’s not though is it.

It’s more fearmongering a particular title who has been shameless throughout, reporting worst case scenarios and speculation as fact.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

It’s not though is it.

It’s more fearmongering a particular title who has been shameless throughout, reporting worst case scenarios and speculation as fact.

How is it fearmongering?

Will you be clutching your rosary beads waiting for the next wave?

Will you be happy if we are as prepared as we can be, should another wave come along?

Why do you seek out these headlines? It’s bizarre.

 

[Vic]

It’s not though is it.

It’s more fearmongering a particular title who has been shameless throughout, reporting worst case scenarios and speculation as fact.

It's a headline with a byline that says don't worry about it. And second paragraph of the story says "experts on the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) said they were increasingly confident that the worst case scenarios for the current wave are very unlikely to occur".

I think Covid has caused some paranoia.

 

[blueparrot]

It’s not though is it.

It’s more fearmongering a particular title who has been shameless throughout, reporting worst case scenarios and speculation as fact.

Only if you can only read the big print at the top of an article and the small print is too difficult.

 

[BlueAnorak]

These pricks in the press just can’t give it a rest can they.

Ah, but they only predicted that if we implemented severe restrictions over Christmas. They predicted it would be relatively flat if we continued with Plan B restrictions.
We didn't so it will be minimal and frankly the unvaccinated need immunity from the next Christmas Covid variant.
I have to say their modelling for infection is much improved over the last month just, just the virilance calcs that are totally up the spout.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Typical Guardian twisting of the story. Its not SAGE saying that but a team at Warwick University who might have input into SAGE but who have done a bit of modelling.

The worst one when they reported an ICL model which had an extreme worst case scenario of 6000 deaths a DAY with the lead story saying 'Scientists Predict 6000 Daily Deaths'.

It's a click bait pile of shite on a par with the Mail.

To be fair it is one of the four models used by SAGE (Warwick, Oxford, Imperial and LSHTM being the 4).

 

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[Johnny Mars Bar]

How is it fearmongering?

Will you be clutching your rosary beads waiting for the next wave?

Will you be happy if we are as prepared as we can be, should another wave come along?

Why do you seek out these headlines? It’s bizarre.

What the fuck are you waffling on about?

The headline was on the front page of the Guardian’s website and app. Hardly “seeking out”.

It’s a silly headline and they know exactly what they are doing.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

What the fuck are you waffling on about?

The headline was on the front page of the Guardian’s website and app. Hardly “seeking out”.

It’s a silly headline and they know exactly what they are doing.

No idea. I don’t seek out any headline like that. It’s like you want to be angry about stuff.

Just get on with life, if that’s what you want to do.

What possible use is you calling out some random headline you don’t care about achieving.

Nowt.

 

[Bluesince1979]

What the fuck are you waffling on about?

The headline was on the front page of the Guardian’s website and app. Hardly “seeking out”.

It’s a silly headline and they know exactly what they are doing.

As this thread slips down the rankings it will just be full of rona fetishists. Best of out of it now

 

[M18CTID]

It's a headline with a byline that says don't worry about it. And second paragraph of the story says "experts on the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) said they were increasingly confident that the worst case scenarios for the current wave are very unlikely to occur".

I think Covid has caused some paranoia.

To be fair, you don’t need to be an expert to be “increasingly confident that the worst case scenarios for the current wave are very unlikely to occur”. Fuck me, any of us are capable of coming to that conclusion.

 

[Rammy Blue]

To be fair, you don’t need to be an expert to be “increasingly confident that the worst case scenarios for the current wave are very unlikely to occur”. Fuck me, any of us are capable of coming to that conclusion.

Comical that a defence about a headline can be that the detail says the headline is bullshit. What’s the fucking point of the stupid headline then, lol.