Corruption in English football?

The reason someone hasn't blown the gaff over corruption is because there isn't any. Doesn't have to because everyone is on the gravy train. Just keep the reds on top and the money keeps rolling in. Simple really.
 
Paul1970 said:
I said at the end of last season to watch out for Utd and his season as it’s gonna be there turn to maybe win the title and it’s happening now with he luck and decisions they have now been put into a title race that they should be nowhere near . Last season Liverpool deservedly won the title but the year before every decision went there way and it was only because of a historical run of games undefeated that we did it . Get ready for it because these fuckers could win it .
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The "trial" was passed last season when with a record number of penalties the Rags scrapped into champions league qualification after having their worst start to a season since 1978.
The FA/Premier league awaited the "outcry" from the rest of the footballing world, but then they realised nobody could do fuck all about it.
The "trial" was complete, so on we go to the next stage....the 2 biggest supported clubs battling it out for the title.
Oh the money/marketing/exposure this will give the Premier league from around the world, as them pissing themselves silly at the rest of us and our "outcries".
 
Jesus2020 said:
Having a debate with 2 family members who just don't see it. Don't want to see it. They're too giddy at being joint top.

Anyone got some cold hard facts for me to send them?
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Here's a cold hard "fact" to start you off. "Joint top" is a media fantasy created for the deluded plastic wankers and leeches that attach themselves to the rags in order to establish an illusion of success by association in their oxygen-stealing sad little lives.

That should get the conversation moving in the right direction at which point you can introduce 13th May 2012, 93:20 and the ultimate shattered illusion of "joint top".
 
wolviedinho said:
Corruption - Yes.

The cover up is were I have issues.Are the people involved competent enough to achieve widespread cheating? Var has enabled them to do it in plain view.

You also have to ask the question: Are city complicit? We have won a lot over the last decade.

The rise of the red shit again blinds us with tribal rivalry.

It all comes down to evidence. Most ref decisions can be explained to some degree so it gives them a lot of wiggle room. Football does not have an independent body monitoring the situation.

Personally, I only watch City unless the Mersey or Trafford are struggling in a game.

The fans are powerless due to the money involved.
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Only when fans turn their back on the game in numbers will we have a chance of getting our game back
 
Paul1970 said:
I said at the end of last season to watch out for Utd and his season as it’s gonna be there turn to maybe win the title and it’s happening now with he luck and decisions they have now been put into a title race that they should be nowhere near . Last season Liverpool deservedly won the title but the year before every decision went there way and it was only because of a historical run of games undefeated that we did it . Get ready for it because these fuckers could win it .
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It’s in full flow now before our eyes. I’m fully expecting to be fuming once again tomorrow night at the bent officiating I’m sure we’ll be on the wrong end of
 
Speaking as someone who is not English, it stinks to high heaven. The amount of decisions man united get and the way referees always give them the benefit of the doubt on 50 50s is extremely suspect. They are a poor team in a false position . They also have a habit of playing like dogshit but fluking results. Yeah that can happen but not every week ffs.
 
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bobbyowenquiff said:
It took a long time for corruption and cheating to be exposed in cycling and even then it was only reported because of a couple of outlier journalists. The media ignored it for years even though they knew it was going on. The same is true of athletics. The only question for me is how widespread is corruption in football... not that it doesn't exist.
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The expose of cheating in cycling was brought about because cyclist Lance Armstrong upset David Walsh, chief sports writer for The Sunday Times, this triggering his pursuit of him. As David Walsh is, I think this is correct, a season ticket holder at Livarpool I would think him looking into corruption which could benefit the team he may support very unlikely and as chief sports writer he may be unlikely to allow any of his staff to investigate something that, if true, would benefit them and certainly overshadow the cheating found in cycling which is a minority sport.
 
bluemanchester said:
The expose of cheating in cycling was brought about because cyclist Lance Armstrong upset David Walsh, chief sports writer for The Sunday Times, this triggering his pursuit of him. As David Walsh is, I think this is correct, a season ticket holder at Livarpool I would think him looking into corruption which could benefit the team he may support very unlikely and as chief sports writer he may be unlikely to allow any of his staff to investigate something that, if true, would benefit them and certainly overshadow the cheating found in cycling which is a minority sport.
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I don't know much about David Walsh but I think there are still some journalists left who have integrity and will pursue stories which are in the public interest. They are few and far between though and investigations are very expensive things to do for any media organisation.
 
Journalist, integrity.............
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bobbyowenquiff said:
I don't know much about David Walsh but I think there are still some journalists left who have integrity and will pursue stories which are in the public interest. They are few and far between though and investigations are very expensive things to do for any media organisation.
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It's the expense and the probable likelihood of failure that kills these things. Gathering the volume of evidence that will both hold up to scrutiny in a court of law and be believable enough (beyond reasonable doubt) to win a case is a difficult, time consuming and expensive task with a tiny possibility of success.

Look at the Grobbelaar, Segars and Fashanu case, (a case which also only went as far as it did because a disgruntled business partner had a lot of personal interest in the matter and went for the players' throats (read the book it's a damn good read)) because the important point to take from this example (IMO) is that it's clearly very difficult to highlight and prove that a professional footballer has "cheated".
 
As somebody said yesterday, Utd v Liverpool at the top is what the premier league & their paymasters dream of , they’ve come up with a way to manipulate this so the money keeps rolling in , there’s only one team that can stop them , unless we absolutely smash Chelsea today we will be on the end of something dodgy to cost us the points ....it’s what VAR was invented for
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Nice to reply to my alter-ego!

I'd argue the opposite though. The 1905-6 bribery & illegal payments scandal involving us and Billy Meredith was a big news story at the time, one of the biggest there had been.

Then there was the Good Friday bribery case between Liverpool & United in 1915, which was another huge story. There was a scandal in the 1960's where Sheffield Wednesday players took bribes to throw a game at Ipswich.

It's now that it's brushed under the carpet. There have been two scandals that i've been told about involving over half-a-dozen top-flight referees in the PL that have been successfully brushed under the carpet. Not only were they not punished, but some were rewarded with plum jobs within the game. One is even still refereeing in the top flight (although he never gets important games).
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Everton v Wimbledon when Everton were 2-0 down at half time and getting relegated...... Enter "you need Hans" Seagers in goal for the Dons....
 
There’s no corruption in the premier league if we are talking about brown envelopes getting passed about.
What there is is Bias and favouritism for the 2 red teams, I’m 36 and I’ve never known it any different So I was used it and that’s why our achievements this past 10 years has been unbelievable. The frustrations I have are because I firmly believed VAR would end this bias because they would have no where to hide, but it’s carried on right in front of our eyes even with VAR and it boils my piss.
 
Can you imagine our 100 point season or our quadruple season with Liverpool/United rules applied?
 
There are definitely brown envelopes doing the rounds. We have seen that in both the major governing bodies.

you have people with massive conflicts of interest in key governance roles too

you have subtle rules changes (cup qualification coefficient tweaks to favour history clubs ,wage restrictions lifted in England)

you have the top 2 clubs by fan base interviewing the candidates to head up the prem. you have them engineering an attempted coup in the middle of a pandemic

you have a compliant media

all the ingredients are there
 
They told me football wasn't corrupt and if it was where was the proof. Blatter and friends were then exposed as crooks so they told me that was just Fifa, not all of football.
When Platini was exposed they said that was just Uefa. When Italian clubs were shown to be match fixing cheats it seems that was European football, they were talking about English football. When a referee was told to change his report to say he didn't see an incident, or when a referee reached for a red card but then waived play on or etc etc, they went quiet.
You don't have to be an ostrich to hide your head in the sand, you can be a poster on Bluemoon.
 
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