The death toll is deaths in hospital due to confirmed coronavirus. Analysis from other nations across europe is that around 50% of the deaths take place outside hospitals so reporting has to mention this otherwise they could be accused of covering up the true extent of the epidemic.
I did and put them all on ignore as they spout so much nonsenseIt's not a stupid question. Some "research" last week said it could hang around for several minutes and I posted...
Still no answer! I've not found the bluemoon epidemiologists forum yet though.
I appreciate that there is an awful lot of it but why oh why does the BBC focus entirely on the bad news. How many times do they have to reiterate the death toll from this awful disease and then state that this doesn't include care homes. And that the figure is expected to rise. ? Of course it is going to rise, deaths are not going to stop overnight. Compare that to their reporting of the number of people who have recovered or who are asymptomatic? Not one mention in the last hr that I have noticed. Click bait journalism at its worst with absolutely no balance.
Oh I forgot they have just mention Boris Johnson is recovering.
We aren’t recording recoveries, as a nation. Our recoveries figure currently stands at “N/A”.I appreciate that there is an awful lot of it but why oh why does the BBC focus entirely on the bad news. How many times do they have to reiterate the death toll from this awful disease and then state that this doesn't include care homes. And that the figure is expected to rise. ? Of course it is going to rise, deaths are not going to stop overnight. Compare that to their reporting of the number of people who have recovered or who are asymptomatic? Not one mention in the last hr that I have noticed. Click bait journalism at its worst with absolutely no balance.
Oh I forgot they have just mention Boris Johnson is recovering.
Thanks x ,that is a useful read for everybody actually
The recovery from being ventilated can take a long time,that is well documented and understood,the recovery from having hospital treatment but not admitted with this or just having it really badly but not seeking treatment i think is poorly understood
This goes for your lungs it wants to destroy them and is very effective at doing it
I still feel a bit breathless when i have had to go out a couple of times since and every day from going down the garden,it is obviously nowhere near the acute symptoms,that is not painful /burning like it was but it feels like you are still having a little bit of problem getting a full breath,taking a deep breath in starts me off coughing again,i had perfect lungs before and i am hoping they will recover fully,i am still on inhalers
The death toll is deaths in hospital due to confirmed coronavirus. Analysis from other nations across europe is that around 50% of the deaths take place outside hospitals so reporting has to mention this otherwise they could be accused of covering up the true extent of the epidemic.
I am very surprised that none of the journalists had the bottle to ask Sir Patrick Vallance (PV) if he still stood by his comments about herd immunity. I suspect the questions are vetted.
If you listen carefully to PV's comments about how the UK is doing his arguments are still consistent with his herd immunity theory. For instance he said in the past that, "If you suppress something very, very hard, when you release those measures it bounces back and it bounces back at the wrong time". That thinking seems to me to underly his answers today. If there's no vaccine, and no therapeutics then it might actually be the right strategy. If that's not the case then they will have made the wrong call. I know what I think but no one can know at this stage.
If anything the BBC is far more upbeat than it was when reporting the situation In Spain.What balance do you want out of curiosity? That some people are asymptomatic isnt current news. We knew this a couple of months ago. We still don't know how many are asymptomatic here so they can't report on that. There isn't much good news to grab onto right now so you're gonna have to just deal with it sadly mate.
I don't know if this is said often enough but I for one appreciate your prezzer precis Karen. Same goes for the footy ones. Looking forward to those.Questions
Relaxing restrictions? Not yet
Why no plan for coming out of lockdown? At the moment it is critical to continue restrictions,we are not through the peak
Masks? Looking at new evidence all the time but not convinced yet,might change in future
Recording of social care deaths? Deaths in hosp are proven cases,faster and easier to get,ONS figures count the rest,if anywhere on death certificates include suspected covid
Will we ever know the true figure in social care ?most people who seem to have it now will likely have it,more so now than in the flu season muddling the waters
Pushed on recording on accurate cause of death in nursing homes? more testing in future (last few months cant have been accurate imo)
PPE,why cant ministers say sorry that not everybody has enough? Swerved
Schools question? Too soon,must stick to the current plan,follow the data,we are in a good place with the measures so far,be waste if we relaxed too soon,trying to keep the transmision rate to 1,if it goes above it starts to spread quickly,in the general community excluding care homes,it is about 1
Critical care beds and number of ventilators are good
Care homes again ,testing,rate of infection? 92 care homes in last 24hrs where it has been reported,public health going in and testing,13.5% of homes have infection
PPE in care homes ? Bulk drop to the areas and then it is spread around who needs it
Does gov accept they should have lock downed earlier as we look like will be having the highest death rate as a country? Not clear as you cant really compare countries,we were led by the data and the need to protect the nhs (swerved)
I’m sure I had that back in January.
They aren’t interesting.What is the mortality rate? We don’t know.
What percentage of people are asymptomatic? We don’t know.
When will we have an effective treatment? We don’t know.
When will we have a vaccine? We don’t know.
When will the lockdown end? We don’t know.
When will we have an antibody test? We don’t know.
Given that they know bugger all about this virus they’re doing quite well to keep these briefings interesting.