COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[denislawsbackheel]

I assume the new staff were tested negative before departure but hadn't isolated, and therefore maybe one or two had it, but tested negative. Once in, there's no stopping it, especially if you think the right precautions have been already taken, so you are inclined to live normally. It got into the Falklands this way early on in the pandemic, when we were still getting an understanding.

Since then UK policy for this is quite extensive, I've colleagues who have been working abroad with the military, newly posted personnel go into strict quarantine for 2 weeks at a military base, then they are tested, if negative then they then remain in a bubble to be transferred to their new location, where they stay in a bubble, with testing, on completion of their posting (usually a couple of months), they remain in the bubble until arrival back in the UK, where they then isolate for 10 days at home before returning to their normal job.

Sounds great but my nephew on a nuclear sub has just recovered after 39 of the crew came down with covid when, after their 14 day pre mission quarantine a civvy was allowed on with supplies who was asymptomatically infected. His superior is still ill. The whole mission was aborted.

 

[cleavers]

Sounds great but my nephew on a nuclear sub has just recovered after 39 of the crew came down with covid when, after their 14 day pre mission quarantine a civvy was allowed on with supplies who was asymptomatically infected. His superior is still ill. The whole mission was aborted.

Like everything it is good until someone fucks up, I assume they had created the bubble ready for sailing, then let this untested person in ? Shambles if true. The guys and girls I know have done several postings like this, this year, all successfully.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Merry Christmas!

 

[blueparrot]

I understand your point of view , it was the closing supermarkets but keep sport going that is non sensical

Obviously can’t close supermarkets, but the spread is a lot more of a problem in supermarkets that live sport. That said I’ve been to a supermarket twice since February, don’t miss it,but I’d miss a bit of sport going on to take the mind off things.

 

[The Northern Baptist]

Can't agree mate. Schools are the biggest spreaders, that's where the dichotomy begins and ends.

It's being brought home every day.

My wife's class has now tested 11 positives and five staff since she tested positive herself last Friday.

None of those 5-11 year-old's showed any symptoms and only got tested after my wife rang it in.

My lad is at secondary school and they had over 70 self-isolating in his year alone last week.

Back in March when we shut schools it was indefinitely and clearly that couldn’t be allowed to continue. But now we have the vaccine, the end is in sight.

They need to weigh up how long it will take them to vaccinate the ppl who need it to bring down the death rates to acceptable levels and if they can get away with shutting schools whilst that is done.

Throw the kitchen sink at the vaccine.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Back in March when we shut schools it was indefinitely and clearly that couldn’t be allowed to continue. But now we have the vaccine, the end is in sight.

They need to weigh up how long it will take them to vaccinate the ppl who need it to bring down the death rates to acceptable levels and if they can get away with shutting schools whilst that is done.

Throw the kitchen sink at the vaccine.

you'll just smash the vials then.

 

[yozzerblue]

Interesting. Whereabouts in Rochdale are you? I'm also located in that fine Borough but haven't had anything.

Norden Dan. and you ?

According to Boris 500k have been vaccinated since they started, at current rates that would take 4.74 years to do the whole population. If you just take the over 70's which would exclude health workers it will take 7.5 months to vaccinate them all.

Things need to speed up before we start getting complacent.

 

[Healdplace]

Other watch areas today:

Fir Andyhich Cheshire East - sadly Andy like Stockport suffering the uptick still.

Another new high today

136 cases - up from 124. Total cases 10, 696, Pop score up 35 - more than most of GM today - to 2784.

Weekly Pop up from 188 to 207. Second big rise of late.

When I started tracking it was low 100s. Now it is starting to get into numbers that are concerning.

The five day old data shows it at 166 and misses this big rise over past few days>

Knowing how far it has climbed now rather than after Christmas could matter in a pandemic.

Especially as the options for why it is rising are that a higher number of the new strain are here (the Stockport rise might be too hence the need to watch its progress). Or that it is being exported into Cheshire from Tier 3 area residents going there for Christmas parties and other things more easy to do in the lower tier. As the data used to decide that was several days old when they allocated tiers so they would have missed the recent concerns from day to day data then starting to emerge and getting worse day by day since.

 

[Healdplace]

Watch areas:

Swansea: 273 cases up from 265. Total cases 12, 301. Pop score up 110 to 4980, Big rise 3 times worst in GM today. 7 times the best.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Wales must be borderline immune by now. They'll soon be reporting the numbers who've not had it.

 

[Keith Moncrieff]

What, and not tell the world of an important development of the pandemic ?

That worked well for China a year ago.

‘Don’t shoot the messenger’ springs to mind

 

[Healdplace]

Watch areas in Kent:

Dartford 176 cases - up from 168. Total cases 4252.

Pop score up a huge 156 to 3776.

Weekly Pop score - big rise from 736 to 829.



Medway 445 cases - up from 426. Total cases 13, 087.

Pop score up 160 to 4698. Biggest rise I have seen today.

Weekly Pop 990 up to 1054. First time I have ever seen a weekly Pop score in four figures in an area I am tracking. Though there are others down south right now Needless to say way higher than anywhere in GM.

Indeed nowhere in GM has ever been close to this high. Dartford like scores are the most we have seen here briefly in places like Oldham but they quickly came down - yet been in restrictions since July.

 

[Bluemoon dan]

Norden Dan. and you ?

Ah, I'm over on t'other side. I'm in Littleborough. Still not had anything like that though. And our local Facebook group would no doubt have exploded if anyone else had so not sure what's happening with your notification.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

26th of December I reckon.

If Johnson lets boxing day sales go ahead he needs stringing up from the nearest lamp post. Would be beyond criminal.

 

[kaz7]

Cant say they havent been warned enough, sinc sept in fact

Professor Andrew Hayward, from UCL's institute of epidemiology and a member of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE), told Sky News that "more intensive action" is needed across the whole country to halt the second wave of COVID-19 infections.

Coronavirus: Government in danger of leaving it 'too late' for 'circuit break' lockdown to work, warns SAGE member

Professor Andrew Hayward tells Sky News that "more intensive action" is needed to halt the second wave of COVID-19 infections.

news.sky.com

 

[artfuldodger]

IF we go into some sort of tier 4 plus in new year or earlier, what happens to those who have been vaccinated? My father in law, 87, had his first jab over a week ago. When he has his 2nd jab his plan is to see us, see his grandchildren etc. He had been shielding since March and his world has shrunk. He is spending Xmas day alone. If he is told we are back in lockdown for weeks on end, and he can’t see his family, he will give up.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

IF we go into some sort of tier 4 plus in new year or earlier, what happens to those who have been vaccinated? My father in law, 87, had his first jab over a week ago. When he has his 2nd jab his plan is to see us, see his grandchildren etc. He had been shielding since March and his world has shrunk. He is spending Xmas day alone. If he is told we are back in lockdown for weeks on end, and he can’t see his family, he will give up.

Apply common sense and don't shout it from the rooftops would be my suggestion. Desperately hoping my parents get it soon too.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

IF we go into some sort of tier 4 plus in new year or earlier, what happens to those who have been vaccinated? My father in law, 87, had his first jab over a week ago. When he has his 2nd jab his plan is to see us, see his grandchildren etc. He had been shielding since March and his world has shrunk. He is spending Xmas day alone. If he is told we are back in lockdown for weeks on end, and he can’t see his family, he will give up.

I don’t think anyone would raise their eyebrows at him spending time with you. Glad to hear he has received his vaccine.

 

[Marvin]

IF we go into some sort of tier 4 plus in new year or earlier, what happens to those who have been vaccinated? My father in law, 87, had his first jab over a week ago. When he has his 2nd jab his plan is to see us, see his grandchildren etc. He had been shielding since March and his world has shrunk. He is spending Xmas day alone. If he is told we are back in lockdown for weeks on end, and he can’t see his family, he will give up.

It's not all doom and gloom.

We've still got the Oxford vaccine in the pipeline and if it's confirmed that the vaccines are OK, then we should be able to put together a strategy to get out of this.

It seems like we have a race to roll the vaccines out before the variant makes too many inroads. That's really put a spanner in the works. There isn't really much we can do ourselves but take care.

 

[artfuldodger]

Apply common sense and don't shout it from the rooftops would be my suggestion. Desperately hoping my parents get it soon too.

It was like winning the lottery when he rang to say he’d had THE CALL. Such a weight off our shoulders. Just waiting for my mum to get hers, 82 with terminal cancer. Just hope it’s soon.