Daily Fail and the Mancini era ....

[MSP]

One player involved in incidents with manager and causing problem to him - goodbye to player.

Numerous players, most of them here obviously and some of most important ones, having problems with manager - ciao to manager.

Simple as that.

Suckers who keep repeating Chelsea/Tery/blabla stuff are forgetting that Terry and company kicked out dozen of managers and some of them were some of the nicest blokes out there. City players who apparently (and probably) did the part in City sacking Mancini did it once - to manager we've all seen in physical brawls with players, other club managers.. in numerous verbal brawls with his own players, club staff etc, etc..

But yeah, he paid the ad, club made mistake for not saying goodbye to Kompany, Hart and Silva (and few more), it's much easier to replace them than Mancini.

 

[moomba]

Sorry - Ive not read the whole thread but whilst I appreciate the Mail (or in fact all of them) are really lazy journalists can anyone explain why a team with possibly 6-8 of the best players in Europe lost the FA cup final?

He lost the dressing room. The players gave less imo in the final. Compare to Redaing game and it's night and day and for me it's disgusting for all concerned.

What an indictment on the professionalism of the players if that was the case.

 

[BobKowalski]

Ah another round of 'revelations' and it seems our Nige wasn't kicking up a fuss over not getting parity with other top earners when he declined to sign the new contract that was offered. All the speculation in the press and on here and the involvement of Kia was for naught. It was Mancini all along who bundled him out the door in the dead of the night for a bigger contract in Milan. The swine.

Anyway its going to be an interesting read when someone finally prints the story of the Mancini era at City. I would be intrigued to know when Mancini figured his time was up and what that 'mystery trip to Abu Dhabi a while back was all about and a host of other titbits.

Another thing that has struck me is the similarity between Mancini and Mourinho at their respective clubs. Both there 3 years (ish). Both won the league last year over their fiercest rivals. Both had a less than stellar title defence. Both ended up losing the cup final. Both had squad unrest. Both went to war with the hierarchy or at least were at odds with them. Spooky stuff.

 

[Vic]

I'm not sure which is more depressing. The article, the credence given to innuendo and speculation (even if there's some basis to some of it), or some posters' assumption that this is somehow officially sanctioned by City.

First rule of leaks - who benefits from the leak? Mancini's gone (maybe for some of the "man management" concerns, maybe for CL failure, maybe for some wider disagreement) but what possible motive could the club have prolonging the agony? The only people benefiting are those trying to sell papers, or those trying to sow discord.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Ah another round of 'revelations' and it seems our Nige wasn't kicking up a fuss over not getting parity with other top earners when he declined to sign the new contract that was offered. All the speculation in the press and on here and the involvement of Kia was for naught. It was Mancini all along who bundled him out the door in the dead of the night for a bigger contract in Milan. The swine.

Anyway its going to be an interesting read when someone finally prints the story of the Mancini era at City. I would be intrigued to know when Mancini figured his time was up and what that 'mystery trip to Abu Dhabi a while back was all about and a host of other titbits.

Another thing that has struck me is the similarity between Mancini and Mourinho at their respective clubs. Both there 3 years (ish). Both won the league last year over their fiercest rivals. Both had a less than stellar title defence. Both ended up losing the cup final. Both had squad unrest. Both went to war with the hierarchy or at least were at odds with them. Spooky stuff.

And the very folk who cant stand mancini on here love mourinho :)
ycmiu!

 

[MSP]

Another thing that has struck me is the similarity between Mancini and Mourinho at their respective clubs. Both there 3 years (ish). Both won the league last year over their fiercest rivals. Both had a less than stellar title defence. Both ended up losing the cup final. Both had squad unrest. Both went to war with the hierarchy or at least were at odds with them. Spooky stuff.

When few of us were saying that these two are made from absolute same stuff few months ago, there was no kind of abuse that wasn't launched in our direction. And "Abu Dhabi wants class, not Mourinho" line was most popular one.

 

[NipHolmes]

Whos going on about europe
I'm merely saying if a player or any players has not given 100 % to piss mancini off then they should be fucked off,something i hope you would agree with tbh
I guess we will never know.

Europe was the reason for the Hart and Richards fall out. Also quite fitting that Tevez and Dzeko fell out last year in Munich. I reckon that's when Mancini is most uncomfortable and on edge.

I do hate player power but not if they have good reasoning for actions. There is a stark difference between this and Chelsea bastards so any link of the sort will get short shrift.

-- Sat May 18, 2013 11:33 pm --

They are human beings like the rest of us and just because they get paid a lot more money than us it doesn't mean they have put up with any shit.

Bang on the money.

Also I hate this shit about players not playing 100% just because they are paid millions. Confidence and feeling wanted is key to getting a player to perform, pay is pretty much irrelevant to performance.

-- Sat May 18, 2013 11:35 pm --

Once again, this isnt about Mancini. He's gone and I dont really see the point in discussing whether thats a good thing or not.

This is about the players and the way we should allow them to act.

We aren't privvy to the reasons why players don't see eye to eye with him. It's pointless getting eaten up about it.

I dont care why they dont see eye to eye with the manager. If they start making threats if a manager isnt replaced then for me I'd rather they go on there way to a club that will tolerate that.

Well that's you. IMO they were right and Mancini moving was/is best for the club.

If you're at work and you lose faith in a manager and you don't feel he treats you with adequate respect and other jobs were available I'm sure you'd look at changing jobs or would speak to company boss to sort it out, why is this any different?<br /><br />-- Sun May 19, 2013 12:01 am --<br /><br />

Ah another round of 'revelations' and it seems our Nige wasn't kicking up a fuss over not getting parity with other top earners when he declined to sign the new contract that was offered. All the speculation in the press and on here and the involvement of Kia was for naught. It was Mancini all along who bundled him out the door in the dead of the night for a bigger contract in Milan. The swine.

Anyway its going to be an interesting read when someone finally prints the story of the Mancini era at City. I would be intrigued to know when Mancini figured his time was up and what that 'mystery trip to Abu Dhabi a while back was all about and a host of other titbits.

Another thing that has struck me is the similarity between Mancini and Mourinho at their respective clubs. Both there 3 years (ish). Both won the league last year over their fiercest rivals. Both had a less than stellar title defence. Both ended up losing the cup final. Both had squad unrest. Both went to war with the hierarchy or at least were at odds with them. Spooky stuff.

And the very folk who cant stand mancini on here love mourinho :)
ycmiu!

Come back to me when Mancini does a double and treble

 

[moomba]

Europe was the reason for the Hart and Richards fall out. Also quite fitting that Tevez and Dzeko fell out last year in Munich. I reckon that's when Mancini is most uncomfortable and on edge.

I do hate player power but not if they have good reasoning for actions. There is a stark difference between this and Chelsea bastards so any link of the sort will get short shrift.

-- Sat May 18, 2013 11:33 pm --



Bang on the money.

Also I hate this shit about players not playing 100% just because they are paid millions. Confidence and feeling wanted is key to getting a player to perform, pay is pretty much irrelevant to performance.

-- Sat May 18, 2013 11:35 pm --



We aren't privvy to the reasons why players don't see eye to eye with him. It's pointless getting eaten up about it.

I dont care why they dont see eye to eye with the manager. If they start making threats if a manager isnt replaced then for me I'd rather they go on there way to a club that will tolerate that.

Well that's you. IMO they were right and Mancini moving was/is best for the club.

If you're at work and you lose faith in a manager and you don't feel he treats you with adequate respect and other jobs were available I'm sure you'd look at changing jobs or would speak to company boss to sort it out, why is this any different?

No I wouldnt. I've worked for bosses I dont like and would never dream of giving my employers a "him or me" ultimatum.

I've never left a job because I dont get on with a boss but would do so before shit stirring.

 

[NipHolmes]

Ah another round of 'revelations' and it seems our Nige wasn't kicking up a fuss over not getting parity with other top earners when he declined to sign the new contract that was offered. All the speculation in the press and on here and the involvement of Kia was for naught. It was Mancini all along who bundled him out the door in the dead of the night for a bigger contract in Milan. The swine.

Anyway its going to be an interesting read when someone finally prints the story of the Mancini era at City. I would be intrigued to know when Mancini figured his time was up and what that 'mystery trip to Abu Dhabi a while back was all about and a host of other titbits.

Another thing that has struck me is the similarity between Mancini and Mourinho at their respective clubs. Both there 3 years (ish). Both won the league last year over their fiercest rivals. Both had a less than stellar title defence. Both ended up losing the cup final. Both had squad unrest. Both went to war with the hierarchy or at least were at odds with them. Spooky stuff.

One small detail. Nigel gets paid less at Milan than he did here.

As I said to TCM, come back to me when Mancini wins a treble.<br /><br />-- Sun May 19, 2013 12:06 am --<br /><br />

I dont care why they dont see eye to eye with the manager. If they start making threats if a manager isnt replaced then for me I'd rather they go on there way to a club that will tolerate that.

Well that's you. IMO they were right and Mancini moving was/is best for the club.

If you're at work and you lose faith in a manager and you don't feel he treats you with adequate respect and other jobs were available I'm sure you'd look at changing jobs or would speak to company boss to sort it out, why is this any different?

No I wouldnt. I've worked for bosses I dont like and would never dream of giving my employers a "him or me" ultimatum.

I've never left a job because I dont get on with a boss but would do so before shit stirring.

Well I'd look for an easy work life and I'd call my gaffer out before I moved. I'd thrash out with him and then take above him if I couldn't sort it.

Mancini isn't as big a loss and many of you believe, we did well under him but this season we haven't. In time you will come round, I promise.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Ah another round of 'revelations' and it seems our Nige wasn't kicking up a fuss over not getting parity with other top earners when he declined to sign the new contract that was offered. All the speculation in the press and on here and the involvement of Kia was for naught. It was Mancini all along who bundled him out the door in the dead of the night for a bigger contract in Milan. The swine.

Anyway its going to be an interesting read when someone finally prints the story of the Mancini era at City. I would be intrigued to know when Mancini figured his time was up and what that 'mystery trip to Abu Dhabi a while back was all about and a host of other titbits.

Another thing that has struck me is the similarity between Mancini and Mourinho at their respective clubs. Both there 3 years (ish). Both won the league last year over their fiercest rivals. Both had a less than stellar title defence. Both ended up losing the cup final. Both had squad unrest. Both went to war with the hierarchy or at least were at odds with them. Spooky stuff.

One small detail. Nigel gets paid less at Milan than he did here.

As I said to TCM, come back to me when Mancini wins a treble.

It was more about mourinho going to war with the top brass at clubs he's been at nip
Can you honestly ever see mourinho at city,it would be fucking chaos...