David Silva - 2016/17 performances

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If I get five minutes, I'll look at his goals per game ratio for Spain compared for us, should be interesting and probably frustrating in equal measure

1 every 6 in all comps for us

1 every 3.5 in competitive fixtures for Spain
 
He did score 12 PL goals in the 14/15 season, perhaps he played a different role than normal that season?

He did - we had a long stretch without Yaya or a striker and he got a load of goals which ties into the next part...

1 every 6 in all comps for us

1 every 3.5 in competitive fixtures for Spain

For most of his Spain career he's not had a good striker ahead of him.

Up to the 2010 world cup he had 7 goals in 38 which is pretty much the same as his rate here.

Then David Villa dropped off, Torres fell of a cliff and Silva scored 21 in his next 67 - 1 in 3.

He scores more for Spain because they need him to. When he had to score goals for us as well because of a striker shortage and Yaya being at AFCON, he scored 12 in 32.
 
And I bet most of those "assisting the assister" come when he has a good sight of goal but fails to shoot and passes to the person who gets the assist.

When you see him, ask him why Yaya Toure has as many league goals in one game (2) as he's got in his last 33. Ask him why he's frightened to shoot when he's wearing a City shirt yet scores regularly for Spain.

I'm genuinely interested to know the answer because if he was scoring 12-15 goals a season then he'd be up there as an absolute all-time great in my eyes.

I'm genuinely interested why you think 12-15 goals a season is a prerequisite for greatness. There are so many non-strikers who get no where near that level but are considered as one of the greats of their respective clubs. Already mentioned in this thread are the likes of Xavi and Iniesta.

YaYa is one of the all-time City greats but he has achieved it 1 in 6 season with the brilliant 20 goal haul in 13/14
Scholes 1 in 19 seasons
Bergkamp 0 in his last 7 seasons when he was more of a creator than a striker
Giggs 1 in 24 seasons
Gerrard 2 in 17 seasons
Beckham 0 in 9 seasons.

Off the top of my head lampard was the best in the PL era with 10 successive seasons at one point where he scored 10+. Even then he only got over 12 goals 5 times.
 
I'm genuinely interested why you think 12-15 goals a season is a prerequisite for greatness.

I think a player of his huge quality, who finds himself in front of goal as often as he does, should be getting double figures. So let's say 10-12 rather than 12-15. We know he can score and he also got 12 a couple of seasons ago which is why it frustrates the hell out of me when he has a clear chance and won't do so. He can score great goals.

If I'm being fair to him, he's not the only one though.

I look at Sterling and see a player whose finishing is his weakest skill but he's young and should improve. Plus he's got 10 or more goals in the last 3 full seasons. Navas is a better example. Had a reasonable if not spectacular goal-scoring record in Spain but has a rush of blood to the head and his vision goes all fuzzy when he gets a sight of goal.

Aguero will get his 20+ league goals and Kev will probably get 10 but we really need Silva, Navas, Sterling, Nolito to get something like 10 each if we're going to stand a chance of winning the league.
 
We know he can score and he also got 12 a couple of seasons ago which is why it frustrates the hell out of me when he has a clear chance and won't do so. He can score great goals.
Wasn't that the season we lost Džeko, Sergio and Jovetic at the same time and Silva/Milner were interchanging up front? I think it's a bit of a stretch to expect that when he's playing as the middle positioned midfielder in a 3 as he has been this season.
 
Wasn't that the season we lost Džeko, Sergio and Jovetic at the same time and Silva/Milner were interchanging up front? I think it's a bit of a stretch to expect that when he's playing as the middle positioned midfielder in a 3 as he has been this season.
I agree the situation was different but even now, how many times is he in a great position but won't shoot? If he shot and put away 1 in 4, he'd easily get double figures.
 
FFS Prestwich, enough with the never ending Clarkie. We can opine on who is better, Yaya or Silva or DeBryune or Silva. An opinions may differ. But Silva is a great player. Even the blind can see that.
 
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Never turns up in big games!

Pretty much the same as Ozil, better than KDB & Hazard

Are you really using KDB as a comparison?? Lol
 
7 of those were in the 6 years box and he played almost as a 2nd striker for God know how many games....

Hang on, so now he's got to not just score, but score from outside the 6 yard box?

For some reason I'd forgotten those <6 yard goals don't count. Someone should revise Aguero's goal count from 150 down to about 80 I suppose.
 
FFS Prestwich, enough with the never ending Clarkie. We can opine on who is better, Yaya or Silva or DeBryune or Silva. An opinions may differ. But Silva is a great player. Even the blind can see that.
When have I said he isn't? As good as he is my argument is that he could and should be even better. He should, as an attacking midfield player, be scoring 12 goals a season. And then he truly would be one of the all-time greats.
 
Hang on, so now he's got to not just score, but score from outside the 6 yard box?

For some reason I'd forgotten those <6 yard goals don't count. Someone should revise Aguero's goal count from 150 down to about 80 I suppose.

The original assertion was why? Keep up...


No, if you look really really hard you can see Sky made the comparison.

And if you engaged your brain you'd warranted the comparison of someone who has played '8' to his 50.... It's a bullshit comparison which you've reinforced...
 
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