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De Bruyne?
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Wilf Wild 1937
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It always baffles me mate. What does it matter to us if we pay £47m or £57m? It will have no impact on us, other than the chance to see a great footballer in a City shirt. Sometimes people get bogged down by fees as though they're paying it themselves. Why would you give it a shit? Pretty much all transfer fees at the top level are obscene in their own way.
Problem is FFP though. If we're after four players say and overspend on the first three then we probably can't afford the fourth. Everything has to be budgeted for. It's boring and a pain in the arse I know but that's the current reality. If we go over budget Ferran will be looking to get the money back in other ways such as season ticket prices.
ooohh
true
but equally we should have a real value in mind and stick at that
fuck them if they want too much more
develop a reputation for meaning what you say and then stick with that as much as you can
Morally that's great. If it means missing out on the players you want/need, it's not so savvy from a business point of view.
Wilf Wild 1937
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develop a reputation for meaning what you say and then stick with that as much as you can
I agree and in fairness to Txiki I think that's what he's trying to do.
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Other than reading this thread, and some shite rags who haven't a clue, what do you know that says we haven't ? (and then you add "as much as you can", so you might cave in anyway. LOL.)develop a reputation for meaning what you say and then stick with that as much as you can
Problem is FFP though. If we're after four players say and overspend on the first three then we probably can't afford the fourth. Everything has to be budgeted for. It's boring and a pain in the arse I know but that's the current reality. If we go over budget Ferran will be looking to get the money back in other ways such as season ticket prices.
Of course, that's the reality we operate in. Getting Sterling, De Bruyne and Pogba would've stretched us to the absolute max. I'm not even sure we could've managed it within the existing FFP regulations. As a deal for Pogba is increasingly unlikely/impossible, it gives us a bit of flexibility in terms of what we can afford for De Bruyne. Clearly this hasn't gone unnoticed in Wolfsburg.
Agree with that mate!If we end up paying in the region of £100 million for Sterling, KDB and Delph Id say it's a very good window which will prove to be value for money.
People worry that the price of a pre-match pie and a pint will pushed-up.
I'm not sure that's really true. They often think £45m is fine, but then get outraged and think £50m is too much for example. If anyone sanely thinks the £5m fee difference is gonna change the pie prices then well....all hope is lost. It isn't gonna make a difference, is it? If it would mess up the club's finances, they wouldn't pay it.
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As a deal for Pogba is increasingly unlikely/impossible, it gives us a bit of flexibility in terms of what we can afford for De Bruyne. Clearly this hasn't gone unnoticed in Wolfsburg.
That's very true. I also think that's why we've encouraged or at least not discouraged the talk about Pedro.
With respect its not as simple as the saying he is worth what a club is willing to pay. A player can run his contract down and be signed for nothing on a Bosman, the next day he is worth £20 million. It's a moving target.
What the sites try to do, particularly CIES, is identify true average worth with objective calculations and identify who got good value in the market. Some teams are very good at this FC Porto springs to mind. Sort of like Moneyball. City themselves seem to be investing heavily themselves in this type of technology. It's not a precise science of course as humans are involved and it's difficult to measure everything, but there is no doubt that some clubs sometimes wildly overpay and the player would not be valued at that amount by anyone else going forward.
I understand what the sites do, I just don't see the value in it in the context of transfers. Porto are good at working out potential value, which isn't the same as market value anyway and is a risk, they are just good at minimizing risk. True average worth has very little relevance when it comes to transfers. In monetary terms, a player is worth what a club is willing to pay and a club is willing to sell at. Opinions on that worth will vary.
Personally, I really want De Bruyne at City. The prospect of the fluidity of Silva, Sterling, Aguero and KDB is mouth watering. So, I'm of the opinion that if Wolfsburg have set a price of 57m, we meet it.