De Bruyne?

No way, but I can't understand why we are even considering him. He's looking good in a one horse league, which outside of one club, as a league is not as strong as the EPL.
I don't know too much bot him but to be voted the player of your League is pretty impressive. OK it is a one-sided league, but to outshine the Bayern and Dortmund players is impressive you must admit?

I don't think our weakness is going forward, but we need to make the transition from a top 16 European club to top 6 and you do that by signing the special players when you cam. I hope we get him. That goes without saying
 
Are you actually saying these things?
It's always good to have someone arguing the other point of view to see if the argument makes sense.

Looking back through this thread, there's still nothing concrete to suggest we are close to signing him.
 
No way, but I can't understand why we are even considering him. He's looking good in a one horse league, which outside of one club, as a league is not as strong as the EPL.
You must be furious about the links to Pogba as that is a worse league than in Germany.

La liga is a 2 horse league so are you saying we can only buy from Bayern, Real, Barca & teams in the Prem?

Who would you prefer?
 
Navas created 76 goal scoring chances the season we signed him. That was higher than any other player in La Liga. Probably signed because of that stat.
Can't always judge a player by just stats even though KDB's are impressive.
Maybe Voomer has seen KDB play more than a lot of you, maybe he hasn't but just because someone doesn't have an opinion that KDB is amazing the whole forum goes into meltdown.
I'm not too sure he will improve us to be honest but I've only seen him 3/4 times last season for Wolfsburg.
Have to trust our men in charge that they know what they are doing on this one I suppose.
 
What makes you say that highly intelligent observation?

Because I actually look at how we play and the fact that we have a World class forward in Sergio, but we are crying for more pace. If DB was a solid defensive midfielder and could pass as he does then yes sign him. He isn't, infact he's a liability in that area and he doesn't have the searing pace we need. So it's spend around £35mill on Sterling who is 20 and upgrade on Navas, £35 mill on someone who needs us to change how we play.
 
Because I actually look at how we play and the fact that we have a World class forward in Sergio, but we are crying for more pace. If DB was a solid defensive midfielder and could pass as he does then yes sign him. He isn't, infact he's a liability in that area and he doesn't have the searing pace we need. So it's spend around £35mill on Sterling who is 20 and upgrade on Navas, £35 mill on someone who needs us to change how we play.
Or we buy them both
 
I don't think our weakness is going forward, but we need to make the transition from a top 16 European club to top 6 and you do that by signing the special players when you cam. I hope we get him. That goes without saying
I think our weakness is going forward. This season, we let in 1 more goal than last season. But we scored 19 less. Don't get me wrong, we need to improve defensively, but that's not really a personnel issue, it's an organisation issue. The way Pellegrini plays, it's important to get our goal count up. Replacing a decent player in Milner with one of the best creative players in Europe is a good start. Even on things like set pieces, having a front 3 of De Bruyne, Aguero and Sterling would make opposition teams afraid to over commit players forward.

Look at Barcelona this season. They didn't add anything to their first choice defensive options, and yet they ended up with a far more impressive defensive record this season compared to last, just because of the sheer control they have over the game with that front 3 and midfield.
 
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Navas created 76 goal scoring chances the season we signed him. That was higher than any other player in La Liga. Probably signed because of that stat.
Can't always judge a player by just stats even though KDB's are impressive.
Maybe Voomer has seen KDB play more than a lot of you, maybe he hasn't but just because someone doesn't have an opinion that KDB is amazing the whole forum goes into meltdown.
I'm not too sure he will improve us to be honest but I've only seen him 3/4 times last season for Wolfsburg.
Have to trust our men in charge that they know what they are doing on this one I suppose.
Has he bollocks seen more of him than anyone else. He's just a fucking sad wum with nothing better to do. So obvious
 
Please god let us miss out on this hugely overated player. No real pace and praised for doing something that you would expect of any average winger, or attacking midfielder. If he signs I predict he will be loaned out within 18 months along with Bony.
You forgot to prefix that with: I've never seen him play but....
 
Please god let us miss out on this hugely overated player. No real pace and praised for doing something that you would expect of any average winger, or attacking midfielder. If he signs I predict he will be loaned out within 18 months along with Bony.
What average winger or attacking midfielder in any European league averages a goal or assist every single game?

You must be gutted about how crap someone like silva's stats are!
 
Because I actually look at how we play and the fact that we have a World class forward in Sergio, but we are crying for more pace. If DB was a solid defensive midfielder and could pass as he does then yes sign him. He isn't, infact he's a liability in that area and he doesn't have the searing pace we need. So it's spend around £35mill on Sterling who is 20 and upgrade on Navas, £35 mill on someone who needs us to change how we play.

Since 2011 Sterling has played 113 games,scored 18,got 15 assists,pass completion is 81.9% and he's had MOTM 7 times.
De Bruyne has played 108 games,scored 29,got 43 assists,pass completion is 76.4% and MOTM 17 times.
It's your opinion,and I respect that but,how is De Bruyne "hugely" overrated,and we should just pay £35 mill for Sterling.
Not that I wouldn't want sterling,just wanted your opinion on the vast difference.
 
We need to do everything we can to get KDB. Class player, not sure what people are basing their 'overated' remarks on?
 
Check the league he's in! He will be closed down with ease and he's crossing prowess is to take advantage of Sergio ' s height, or a desperate throw of the dice when we throw Bony on?

I agree. Nobody closes down a player in the Bundesliga, walking pace league.
 
I think our weakness is going forward. This season, we let in 1 more goal than last season. But we scored 19 less. Don't get me wrong, we need to improve defensively, but that's not really a personnel issue, it's an organisation issue. The way Pellegrini plays, it's important to get our goal count up. Replacing a decent player in Milner with one of the best creative players in Europe is a good start. Even on things like set pieces, having a front 3 of De Bruyne, Aguero and Sterling would make opposition teams afraid to over commit players forward.

Look at Barcelona this season. They didn't add anything to their first choice defensive options, and yet they ended up with a far more impressive defensive record this season compared to last, just because of the sheer control they have over the game with that front 3 and midfield.

Absolutely agree , although I would also replace Yaya with another Fernandinho if we could clone him.
 
So some are for de Bruyne and some not same as sterling in fact nearly every player we attempt or sign has people split,and at the end of the day it's all about opinions,for what it's worth just hope if we do sign either or both they prove to be a success rather than flop...Right when the Fcuk will we hear any concrete news ....
 
Because I actually look at how we play and the fact that we have a World class forward in Sergio, but we are crying for more pace. If DB was a solid defensive midfielder and could pass as he does then yes sign him. He isn't, infact he's a liability in that area and he doesn't have the searing pace we need. So it's spend around £35mill on Sterling who is 20 and upgrade on Navas, £35 mill on someone who needs us to change how we play.

Why don't we just sign both? Problem solved.

We get a better all round player in De Bruyne who has great set pieces, an excellent range of passing and an all round quality football brain and then we also get a player in Sterling with pace, directness, trickery and also another goal threat.

They are both very different players and i would be satisfied to take both of them.
 
I think our weakness is going forward. This season, we let in 1 more goal than last season. But we scored 19 less. Don't get me wrong, we need to improve defensively, but that's not really a personnel issue, it's an organisation issue. The way Pellegrini plays, it's important to get our goal count up. Replacing a decent player in Milner with one of the best creative players in Europe is a good start. Even on things like set pieces, having a front 3 of De Bruyne, Aguero and Sterling would make opposition teams afraid to over commit players forward.

Look at Barcelona this season. They didn't add anything to their first choice defensive options, and yet they ended up with a far more impressive defensive record this season compared to last, just because of the sheer control they have over the game with that front 3 and midfield.

Agree, this is exactly what i have been saying. In this day and age, you need more than just a defensive midfielder who can sit and hold and just tackle, you need a team who are more combative than that and can generally take more control of a football match. Look at Fernando, he offers absolutely nothing to our side whatsoever and would have much preferred us to sign a player like Fabregas last season who can do a bit of everything in midfield. De Bruyne and Sterling would be good signings for me, although i still do think Sterling is a risk and is slightly overpriced.
 
Each season leagues like La Liga and Bundesliga continue to prove those who claim it's a 1 or two team league wrong. La Liga could possibly see all 5 of their entrants in the group stages of champions league. La Liga are the champions of Europe with Barca winning CL and Sevilla winning Europa.

Bundesliga is so easy that a team like Dortmund battled relegation all season long to try to finish respectfully. Just bc Bayern are one of the best teams in the world don't make BuLi a one team league.

Chelsea ran away with the title this season just like Bayern and other one team league candidates Juve, you wouldn't call PL a one league team would you?

BuLi is probably one of the toughest leagues in Europe, ahead of the Pl Week in/out. There's no easy games, every team presses really high up the pitch for a full 90 minutes. So for KDB to manage 15 goals and record breaking 25 assists is pretty damn amazing considered the style of play in that league. More impressive than Depay's stats as most defenses in the Dutch League are sleep half the time.

Sterling and Navas have enough pace in the squad and pace isn't the end all be all in a winger. We now see Messi on the wing, he's not beating every man he sees with pace, rather skill and KDB does the same. You sort of need that balance of one with pace, the other who has has just enough pace to beat their man but doesn't rely on it just to beat their man. This is how RM gets exposed when they have Ronaldo and Bale flying and no use defensively.

Off the top of my head I can think of Neymar/Suarez/Messi and Depay/De Jong/Nasingh in a 4-3-3 that illustrates my point.



What we lack is more quality in our early crosses, KDB uses plenty of ways to get the ball inside the box vs Kola's low crosses or Navas who becomes way too predictable.

Bringing it both Sterling and KDB would improve much needed positions, take the burden of creation off of Navas' shoulders and give us plenty of options to score goals. Both also give us flexibility to switch positions if needed like Milner gave us. I don't see how anyone who's watched KDB can say he's overrated. Using Chelsea as an example isn't enough because if you read around, you'll see more and more that people are equating them losing him to Pogba leaving United.
 
Each season leagues like La Liga and Bundesliga continue to prove those who claim it's a 1 or two team league wrong. La Liga could possibly see all 5 of their entrants in the group stages of champions league. La Liga are the champions of Europe with Barca winning CL and Sevilla winning Europa.

Bundesliga is so easy that a team like Dortmund battled relegation all season long to try to finish respectfully. Just bc Bayern are one of the best teams in the world don't make BuLi a one team league.

Chelsea ran away with the title this season just like Bayern and other one team league candidates Juve, you wouldn't call PL a one league team would you?

BuLi is probably one of the toughest leagues in Europe, ahead of the Pl Week in/out. There's no easy games, every team presses really high up the pitch for a full 90 minutes. So for KDB to manage 15 goals and record breaking 25 assists is pretty damn amazing considered the style of play in that league. More impressive than Depay's stats as most defenses in the Dutch League are sleep half the time.

Sterling and Navas have enough pace in the squad and pace isn't the end all be all in a winger. We now see Messi on the wing, he's not beating every man he sees with pace, rather skill and KDB does the same. You sort of need that balance of one with pace, the other who has has just enough pace to beat their man but doesn't rely on it just to beat their man. This is how RM gets exposed when they have Ronaldo and Bale flying and no use defensively.

Off the top of my head I can think of Neymar/Suarez/Messi and Depay/De Jong/Nasingh in a 4-3-3 that illustrates my point.



What we lack is more quality in our early crosses, KDB uses plenty of ways to get the ball inside the box vs Kola's low crosses or Navas who becomes way too predictable.

Bringing it both Sterling and KDB would improve much needed positions, take the burden of creation off of Navas' shoulders and give us plenty of options to score goals. Both also give us flexibility to switch positions if needed like Milner gave us. I don't see how anyone who's watched KDB can say he's overrated. Using Chelsea as an example isn't enough because if you read around, you'll see more and more that people are equating them losing him to Pogba leaving United.
Well said, cracking player is KDB. Will prove his doubters on here wrong imo.
 

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