Dianne Abbott

[kaz7]

Which the vast majority trying to enter via a boat supplied by criminal gangs have zero intention of doing. The plan is to evade all law enforcement and to then disappear into society.

Criminal behaviour.

A tiny amount come in that way,so tiny they barely register ,the mail has done a great job on people

 

[blueinsa]

A tiny amount come in that way,so tiny they barely register ,the mail has done a great job on people

Never read the Daily Mail in my 49 years on this Earth, not once and only ever see it when its retweeted or posted on here.

Do you have a point other than to claim i read the Mail and take my cue from it?

 

[Vic]

And then in his dystopian dream when he can’t get to work due to congested roads or trains, or educate his kids or get a doctors appointment and he loses his job due to someone from China doing it cheaper, he’ll blame the Tories.

We could probably do with a dedicated "immigration" thread. I'm not sure the "open borders" advocates would be many; I just do the history of how that used to work for centuries, and how immigrants' work ethic and innovation has helped the UK- all those jobs round here thanks to Beyer (as in Beyer Peacock), Renold, Ferranti, Marconi, Dreyfus (Clayton Aniline), Brunner and Mond (ICI).

I did recall Ken Livingstone saying London could not function without illegal immigrants, but when I searched for that, this is what I got: http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/articles/2008/04/09/mayor_migrants_amnesty_feature.shtm)
(Johnson supports amnesty for illegal immgrants.)

 

[Ban-jani]

We could probably do with a dedicated "immigration" thread. I'm not sure the "open borders" advocates would be many; I just do the history of how that used to work for centuries, and how immigrants' work ethic and innovation has helped the UK- all those jobs round here thanks to Beyer (as in Beyer Peacock), Renold, Ferranti, Marconi, Dreyfus (Clayton Aniline), Brunner and Mond (ICI).

I did recall Ken Livingstone saying London could not function without illegal immigrants, but when I searched for that, this is what I got: http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/articles/2008/04/09/mayor_migrants_amnesty_feature.shtm)
(Johnson supports amnesty for illegal immgrants.)

I wasn’t talking about you but if you want to create a thread then I’ll contribute.

Livingstone is a fossil and an antisemitic fossil at that, fuck whatever he says.

 

[kaz7]

Never read the Daily Mail in my 49 years on this Earth, not once and only ever see it when its retweeted or posted on here.

Do you have a point other than to claim i read the Mail and take my cue from it?

Did i claim you did personally? The numbers coming by boat are a tiny amount of immigrants coming here ,not worth the gov setting the navy on them and talking like it is a national outrage,still it diverts attention

 

[Ban-jani]

Did i claim you did personally? The numbers coming by boat are a tiny amount of immigrants coming here ,not worth the gov setting the navy on them and talking like it is a national outrage,still it diverts attention

I know we agreed to not discuss politics but a quick point on this that I think is very important.

A 16 year old drowned in the last 24 hours trying to cross the Channel, I would rather the Navy was there as it may at least result in less people dying whilst attempting the dangerous crossing.

I blame the French, they’re getting right on my tits and Macron is a git.

 

[kaz7]

I know we agreed to not discuss politics but a quick point on this that I think is very important.

A 16 year old drowned in the last 24 hours trying to cross the Channel, I would rather the Navy was there as it may at least result in less people dying whilst attempting the dangerous crossing.

I blame the French, they’re getting right on my tits and Macron is a git.

i rather we stop them at source,i never want to see another dead baby ,patel's stance is aggressive not concerned

 

[Ban-jani]

i rather we stop them at source,i never want to see another dead baby ,patel's stance is aggressive not concerned

Neither do I but what are we meant to do in the Sudan, where this teenager came from?

Do we want to engage in another foreign war?

They shouldn’t be allowed to cross the EU to get to Britain, they need to be stopped and if they’re genuine asylum seekers, they need to be housed across the UN equally, if not, returned to source.

Patel is trying to deter, if she can stop them crossing the Channel, less will try in future.

The end goal here is less dead people, which is why I’m against encouraging the crossings.

 

[DrBlueBob]

i rather we stop them at source,i never want to see another dead baby ,patel's stance is aggressive not concerned

Is it down to us to stop them at source? It seems to me that whilst their final choice of destination is the UK, some of the countries they pass through seem quite happy to facilitate their passage and we end up with dealing with the human misery. I can't imagination how deserate these people are that they would put themselves at such personal risk.

 

[kaz7]

Neither do I but what are we meant to do in the Sudan, where this teenager came from?

Do we want to engage in another foreign war?

They shouldn’t be allowed to cross the EU to get to Britain, they need to be stopped and if they’re genuine asylum seekers, they need to be housed across the UN equally, if not, returned to source.

Patel is trying to deter, if she can stop them crossing the Channel, less will try in future.

The end goal here is less dead people, which is why I’m against encouraging the crossings.

We agree nobody wants the crossings