Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 3)

[hgblue]

I've never been convinced by anything that **** has said.

-- Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:00 pm --



This is exactly what should make JH pull his finger out properly from now on. The risk of losing his World Cup place.

MP has called it right.

Pull his finger out how exactly? He's been making mistakes, cant argue about being dropped, but I haven't read anything to suggest he hasn't been training hard or that there's anything wrong with his attitude.

Goalkeepers are expected to stop goals. JH hasn't been doing that. Therefore he needs to pull his finger out and start doing so. Where have you got 'training' from from my post??!!

Maybe, just maybe, he isn't good enough, and needs to be replaced with someone who is?

 

[OB1]

Pull his finger out how exactly? He's been making mistakes, cant argue about being dropped, but I haven't read anything to suggest he hasn't been training hard or that there's anything wrong with his attitude.

Goalkeepers are expected to stop goals. JH hasn't been doing that. Therefore he needs to pull his finger out and start doing so. Where have you got 'training' from from my post??!!

Maybe, just maybe, he isn't good enough, and needs to be replaced with someone who is?

Hart has produced some performances that are as good as anything that I have seen and won Golden Gloves, I think, for three seasons in a row. He was good enough and should still be several years away from his peak but how does he get back to his best? And, given the thread title, does Pellegrini have the solution?

 

[hgblue]

Goalkeepers are expected to stop goals. JH hasn't been doing that. Therefore he needs to pull his finger out and start doing so. Where have you got 'training' from from my post??!!

Maybe, just maybe, he isn't good enough, and needs to be replaced with someone who is?

Hart has produced some performances that are as good as anything that I have seen and won Golden Gloves, I think, for three seasons in a row. He was good enough and should still be several years away from his peak but how does he get back to his best? And, given the thread title, does Pellegrini have the solution?

Here's a thing, Mancini has won many trophies and knows a thing or two about the game, and he was looking to get rid of Joe Hart. Pellegrini has been here five minutes and already he's taken the decision to bench England's current number one. If Pantillimon does well, I don't see a way back for Hart, because you don't drop your goalkeeper unless you feel it's absolutely necessary.

 

[TGR]

A Blue has just txt me to have a look online at Jamie Carraghers column in the Mail this morning, he asks the question ''would City fans have Mancini back''
Hes suggesting that we are going slightly backwards under Pellers and that he will never be as popular as Roberto.
Now i was a big Mancini fan but its about time we moved on now and we could do without retired average Scouse footballers sticking their noses in

I don't think most City fans would have got rid of him but it's irrelevant, it's done now and he isn't coming back. I doubt Pellegrini will ever be as popular as Mancini. Mancini had a fairly unique opportunity in being the one to win us our first trophies in so long. The manner he did it in will also be hard to repeat. Beating the rags en-route to the FA Cup and then winning the title on goal difference in a very very memorable campaign of dazzling highs with comeback wins, twists and turns and gut-punching lows. However, it's also irrelevant. What's important is whether Pellegrini does a good job. He's doing ok, and if we sort the defence out, he will be successful.

Exactly this.
Let's move forward and support the team the club and the manager.

 

[mancity1]

Maybe, just maybe, he isn't good enough, and needs to be replaced with someone who is?

Hart has produced some performances that are as good as anything that I have seen and won Golden Gloves, I think, for three seasons in a row. He was good enough and should still be several years away from his peak but how does he get back to his best? And, given the thread title, does Pellegrini have the solution?

Here's a thing, Mancini has won many trophies and knows a thing or two about the game, and he was looking to get rid of Joe Hart. Pellegrini has been here five minutes and already he's taken the decision to bench England's current number one. If Pantillimon does well, I don't see a way back for Hart, because you don't drop your goalkeeper unless you feel it's absolutely necessary.

Its pretty simple , if you drop form and it starts to cost you points , there's a good chance you will spend time on the bench at some time.

Joe is good enough to get back to his best and on a consistent basis and that opportunity will arise again.

Like anybody in our squad though if someone better is available , wants to come and we can afford him then that player whose position he replaces will go down the pecking order including the likes of Joe.

 

[hgblue]

Hart has produced some performances that are as good as anything that I have seen and won Golden Gloves, I think, for three seasons in a row. He was good enough and should still be several years away from his peak but how does he get back to his best? And, given the thread title, does Pellegrini have the solution?

Here's a thing, Mancini has won many trophies and knows a thing or two about the game, and he was looking to get rid of Joe Hart. Pellegrini has been here five minutes and already he's taken the decision to bench England's current number one. If Pantillimon does well, I don't see a way back for Hart, because you don't drop your goalkeeper unless you feel it's absolutely necessary.

Its pretty simple , if you drop form and it starts to cost you points , there's a good chance you will spend time on the bench at some time.

Joe is good enough to get back to his best and on a consistent basis and that opportunity will arise again.

Like anybody in our squad though if someone better is available , wants to come and we can afford him then that player whose position he replaces will go down the pecking order including the likes of Joe.

Of course, but goalkeeper is such a specialist position that you don't chop and change unless absolutely necessary. I'd suggest that the fact Pellegrini has found it necessary to take Hart out of the team is a very ominous sign for his City future. I'm not convinced that Pellegrini particularly rates him tbh.

 

[moomba]

Here's a thing, Mancini has won many trophies and knows a thing or two about the game, and he was looking to get rid of Joe Hart.

Says who?

 

[mancity1]

Here's a thing, Mancini has won many trophies and knows a thing or two about the game, and he was looking to get rid of Joe Hart. Pellegrini has been here five minutes and already he's taken the decision to bench England's current number one. If Pantillimon does well, I don't see a way back for Hart, because you don't drop your goalkeeper unless you feel it's absolutely necessary.

Its pretty simple , if you drop form and it starts to cost you points , there's a good chance you will spend time on the bench at some time.

Joe is good enough to get back to his best and on a consistent basis and that opportunity will arise again.

Like anybody in our squad though if someone better is available , wants to come and we can afford him then that player whose position he replaces will go down the pecking order including the likes of Joe.

Of course, but goalkeeper is such a specialist position that you don't chop and change unless absolutely necessary. I'd suggest that the fact Pellegrini has found it necessary to take Hart out of the team is a very ominous sign for his City future. I'm not convinced that Pellegrini particularly rates him tbh.

Fair enough but he changes the keeper for every domestic cup game and would have to if he was injured.

If he doesn't rate him , he probably rates Pants even less and if he is still manager at City come next season he will look to replace him as he would any player or position which he thinks needs strengthening.

It's the same for all players.

I remember Fergie switching keepers on a regular basis when he felt it necessary from league game to league game.

Its all for the benefit of the team at least in the managers eyes.

If it back fires on MP its his job on the line as his tenure rests on the results of the team.

We are expected to finish top three / four this season if not challenging for the title and if he fails to do that it could well be adios MP.

If Joe is not doing his bit to help in this regard he has to drop him.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Here's a thing, Mancini has won many trophies and knows a thing or two about the game, and he was looking to get rid of Joe Hart.

Says who?

Nobody other than a misquoted Platt who later told the entire world he was misquoted

 

[hgblue]

Here's a thing, Mancini has won many trophies and knows a thing or two about the game, and he was looking to get rid of Joe Hart.

Says who?

Nobody other than a misquoted Platt who later told the entire world he was misquoted

Sorry mate, I'd seen the quote but not the retraction. However, I've heard enough from Mancini himself to know that he wasn't overly impressed with his keeper.