Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 3)

[yankblue]

The most frustrating thing is that the league is so winnable this season.

I'm all for giving a manager time to get players to gel, implement his system, figure out a new league, etc., but the fact is that this is simply unacceptable. Every team has bad games and once in a while bad teams will take down one of the big boys at home, but we have been consistently outplayed away from home and lost to bottom half teams in the worst way possible. We simply disappear away from home and it's worrying. We get completely outplayed by teams that will be easily bottom half and even on the odd good away performance we still manage to fuck it up (cough cough Chelsea).

By no means am I calling for Pellegrini's head at this point in time, and I am still 100% behind him, but something needs to change because I am getting seriously concerned about making the top 4.

 

[SalfordCityBlue]

Today, he had his hand forced by a couple of injuries, not sure what else he could have done. The team made enough chances and conceded a goal following a dodgy decision on Milner, but sometimes things don't go for you - Sunderland packed their defence and every rebound went their way.

I actually agree with this on the whole. However, 'things not going for us' is happening all the fucking time at the moment, and after the last few years we had stopped that.

You watch enough sport and you start to believe that there are some people who are just lucky, and some who aren't. The amount of (valid) excuses we have had this season makes you worry that Pellegrini is one of those who is unlucky (also look at the CL last year - how fucking unlucky was he there??)

Those crueller/more cynical would probably change lucky/unlucky for winners/losers I imagine...

 

[BLUEMATT23]

Realistically what will happen IF this win at home but lose away pattern carries on?.
I'm worried we won't make the top 4 if this carries on, particularly seen as though we have Liverpool, Rags, Arsenal and Tottenham away to come.

Could the hierarchy make a call at Christmas, like Chelsea have done in the past and get rid. If so who would they bring in?.
I wasn't Mancini's greatest fan at times but this would NOT have happened under him.

As it stands we are still only 6 points adrift so its still a bit early. Pellers has to get a grip with the PL his track record is starting to worry me a bit. The Spanish duo also have to take some blame regarding the defence in not strengthening

But worryingly he does not seem to accept our failings. Yes we have been beset by a few injuries, bad luck and indiscipline in decision making BUT
this pattern cannot carry on.

 

[jollylescott]

Another away day, another strange result that doesn't match the performances.

I'm not rabidly frothing at the mouth to get Pellegrini out - I like the guy, and he is trying to do some great things but it's just not working.

How long he is given isn't up to the fans so we should just get on with it. If it was up to the fans to choose when to sack the manager we wouldn't have Pellegrini at the club to begin with.

The one thing you can say with absolute certainty is our results are a long way short of good enough.

We'll have to wait and see if Pellegrini has the ability/time to sort it out.

Agreed. Honest question mate, what were your thoughts when you saw the teamsheet and tactics to start the game?

I'll have a go at that one Rammy. We had one creative outlet on the pitch (Nasri) and I think it was a bad move not to start with Navas. We had Yaya and Garcia in holding roles, both with the turning circle of the Queen Mary. We changed 3 of our back 4 including both fullbacks. I know Clichy cocked up the other night with the penalty, but I thought he was starting to play well again. Since there is the international break Zab could have started. Tactically we moved the ball ponderously across the park without any penetration. Our captain was one of the main offenders.

In saying all this it is amazing how much we rely on Merlin. I think we need another attacking midfielder because Nasri can't do it all by himself.

 

[mike channon´s windmill]

From Official site:

Manuel Pellegrini says he is stunned that City lost to Sunderland.

Phil Bardsley’s first-half strike gave the Black Cats all three points and condemned the Sky Blues to a fourth away loss of the season – this despite the visitors enjoying two thirds of the possession during the 90 minutes.

“I really can’t believe we lost this match,” said the City boss.

Groundhog day performance followed by Groundhog day response from the manager!

Then the same old Groundhog Day in being clueless in how solve it

 

[jake28]

He just seems particularly short of a clue.

I don't give a flying fuck about qualifying from the Champions League group stage, to be knocked out in the quarter finals. That does not represent progress when we're languishing in fucking 8th in the league. I want to see us compete domestically, what good is minor progress in Europe if it comes at total cost to our league campaign?

Who would've thought that after the easy start the fixture list handed us, that we'd be fucking 8th in the league by November?

Fucking garbage. Not good enough. Really angry considering Mancini's sacking was largely political. We've bowed to played power, we have too many soft and entirely useless bastards devoid of a backbone with inflated egos. The whole premise of sacking Mancini was that he wasn't getting the best out of his squad, he was too harsh on the players, too autocratic. They needed a more genteel and affable manager with European pedigree. Well, we have that now, and we're fucking 8th in the league, and those usual suspects are still putting in gutless and shithouse performances away from home, albeit more frequently.

I'm growing to believe that much of our squad needed an autocratic figure. Soft, spineless egomaniacs.

Excuse the rant, but I'm pretty fucking pissed off at present.

You are 100% right with everything you say.

 

[kaz7]

From Official site:

Manuel Pellegrini says he is stunned that City lost to Sunderland.

Phil Bardsley’s first-half strike gave the Black Cats all three points and condemned the Sky Blues to a fourth away loss of the season – this despite the visitors enjoying two thirds of the possession during the 90 minutes.

“I really can’t believe we lost this match,” said the City boss.

Groundhog day performance followed by Groundhog day response from the manager!

Him saying that again is what is unbelievable

He seems to be permanently shocked at how hard this league is but at the same time he say's he understands it well enough

Seems he thinks the squad just needs to turn up to win so it's no surprise the players think the same.Grrr i want to shake him up out of the seat he seems welded to

Rant over

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

City points tally after 11 games

13/14 - 19
12/13 - 25
11/12 - 31
10/11 - 20 (already played Spurs, Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal & Chelsea)
09/10 - 20 Hughes sacked for his start to the season
08/09 - 13
07/08 - 22 Under Sven

So there we go. It's our worst start since the season we were taken over. Pellegrini shows he is out of his depth each away game we play

That's fucking shocking.

Fucking hell that's painful reading.

And we have only played one decent side away. All the rest are bottom half!

 

[Skip Donoghue]

He just seems particularly short of a clue.

I don't give a flying fuck about qualifying from the Champions League group stage, to be knocked out in the quarter finals. That does not represent progress when we're languishing in fucking 8th in the league. I want to see us compete domestically, what good is minor progress in Europe if it comes at total cost to our league campaign?

Who would've thought that after the easy start the fixture list handed us, that we'd be fucking 8th in the league by November?

Fucking garbage. Not good enough. Really angry considering Mancini's sacking was largely political. We've bowed to played power, we have too many soft and entirely useless bastards devoid of a backbone with inflated egos. The whole premise of sacking Mancini was that he wasn't getting the best out of his squad, he was too harsh on the players, too autocratic. They needed a more genteel and affable manager with European pedigree. Well, we have that now, and we're fucking 8th in the league, and those usual suspects are still putting in gutless and shithouse performances away from home, albeit more frequently.

I'm growing to believe that much of our squad needed an autocratic figure. Soft, spineless egomaniacs.

Excuse the rant, but I'm pretty fucking pissed off at present.

This probably sums up how a lot are feeling right now...

 

[Chi-town blues]

Stubborn ,clueless ,impotent ..