Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 3)

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rastus said:
Blue Haze said:
Kippaxstreetheadache said:
Fucking garbage. Not good enough. Really angry considering Mancini's sacking was largely political. We've bowed to played power, we have too many soft and entirely useless bastards devoid of a backbone with inflated egos. The whole premise of sacking Mancini was that he wasn't getting the best out of his squad, he was too harsh on the players, too autocratic. They needed a more genteel and affable manager with European pedigree. Well, we have that now, and we're fucking 8th in the league, and those usual suspects are still putting in gutless and shithouse performances away from home, albeit more frequently.

I would agree with this if Mancini hadn't bought or kept virtually all of the players who turned on him. You can't say he lacked a budget to replace those who didn't have backbone. He purchased some of the worst offenders.
In fairness Mancini really didnt get the backing we needed after the title winning season

Correct. And there's no way Mancini made those signings in the summer... he wanted RVP, he made it clear on numerous occasions. The board were very quiet before the season even started.

Rodwell, Wright, Sinclair, Maicon, Nastasic, Garcia whilst Balotelli and De Jong went out. That is disgraceful transfer business... the only decent signing to come out of it all was Nastasic.
 
Kippaxstreetheadache said:
He just seems particularly short of a clue.

I don't give a flying fuck about qualifying from the Champions League group stage, to be knocked out in the quarter finals. That does not represent progress when we're languishing in fucking 8th in the league. I want to see us compete domestically, what good is minor progress in Europe if it comes at total cost to our league campaign?

Who would've thought that after the easy start the fixture list handed us, that we'd be fucking 8th in the league by November?

Fucking garbage. Not good enough. Really angry considering Mancini's sacking was largely political. We've bowed to played power, we have too many soft and entirely useless bastards devoid of a backbone with inflated egos. The whole premise of sacking Mancini was that he wasn't getting the best out of his squad, he was too harsh on the players, too autocratic. They needed a more genteel and affable manager with European pedigree. Well, we have that now, and we're fucking 8th in the league, and those usual suspects are still putting in gutless and shithouse performances away from home, albeit more frequently.

I'm growing to believe that much of our squad needed an autocratic figure. Soft, spineless egomaniacs.

Excuse the rant, but I'm pretty fucking pissed off at present.

I like this rant.

We are an easier side to beat than we were last season. We are wedded to a system now and there is no plan B. In time, our system might just begin to dominate other teams, but it's early days and we will lose more games before we see its full potential.

This is a transitional season. Whether the transition was necessary is a moot point. I think not. I also think the premise it was based on is bollocks. The premier league is different and possession football will only get any side so far. You can't play ticky tacky at great pace, with strong physical challenges being the norm.

But, I'm waiting for the full potential..................
 
SalfordCityBlue said:
Rammy Blue said:
Fair comment and I understand the injuries didn't help, however what disappointed me the most about MP today was that he picked the "safe" side when it cried out for a bit of invention. Change the shape, keep the same fullbacks instead of rotating, replace Silv's guile with Navas' pace - all simple stuff that I expected the manager to do. Instead he just hopes that Sergio and Beast can work their magic. As I said earlier, it also irritates me that he doesn't change the shape mid-match, he does like for like subs and sits there motionless watching the game. It doesn't inspire confidence.

I'm not sold on Navas, and to be honest, I'm actually quite happy to Pellegrini has been brave enough to leave out one of his big money signings - it gives me hope that he's got a bit more steel than he shows publicly.

100% agree on the reluctance/refusal/inability to effectively change the pattern of the game.

And although this is in no way a tactical criticism, I was really annoyed that he didn't get Pantilimon forward for the free kick and corner at the end. Mancini would have dragged him there by the scruff of the neck.

For me we lack that borderline insane desire to win we had previously. It just doesn't seem like it hurts as much any more, so it's more 'okay' to lose.

Whether the players would fight for Mancini or to avoid a Mancini Howitzer blast I don't care - at least they fought and it hurt.

Of course that's from the outside looking in - they may be rioting in the dressing room, who knows.

I suppose the bottom line for me is that I can't help but start to lose a little faith with a manager that picks Garcia to start a game......
 
M24 Citizen said:
rushts said:
Engineer? Fucking Engineer lol.

Engineer us a fucking away league win instead of sitting on your arse in the dugout shaking your head.

Engineer, I wouldn't trust you with a fucking Meccano set.

Haha!

I love Rushts
 
Got it...employ Mancini and Pelle.

Mancini manages us when we play away and the domestic cups.

Pelle takes the home games and Europe.

Who's with me!?
 
Danamy said:
I'm obviously not happy with our League position but I'm surprisingly calm about the whole situation.

We've been far from lucky with the timing of injuries to key personnel which hasn't helped, we need to get them back and find some continuity.

Nothing to see here!

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Cobwebcat said:
Got it...employ Mancini and Pelle.

Mancini manages us when we play away and the domestic cups.

Pelle takes the home games and Europe.

Who's with me!?

I don't think Mancini would be impressed
 
Its gonna all end up well in three years when Pep rocks up. MP is only keeping the seat warm as the two Spanish geezers upstairs have got it all mapped out. The grand opening of the academy as Pep signs on the dotted line. Only thing that worries me is will he be taking over a mid-table mediocrity outfit by then.
 
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