Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 3)

[kevodevo]

Re: Clueless manager

Just back and still angry. Got to say that is the most inept display of management I have seen in a long time , this guy is fucking clueless. Need to score swap a right back ,jimmy out wide right with navas on bench and Garcia in the team. To completely change the back four for a game away from home with great results going into it is beyond belief. 3 hours on a coach and still not calmed down he is fucking useless

I feel for you mate I really do, been there done that. however to be fair to pelli even though i'm fuming he rotated we battered sunderland today, they got lucky. as did Chelsea and villa. the tide will turn I promise you.

I think you have a point actually - I cannot believe the poor luck we have had away from home - we have battered them all and come away with little but some of this is due to poor defending - and also poor refereeing especially today - Dean was shameful today - Larsson definitely red card - Bardsley foul on Milner to name two

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

The loss today wasn't down to MPs selection, formation, tactics or underwear choice.

That team he put out today was more than capable of demolishing the 2nd Shittest team in this division.

You can skrike all you want and blame this that and the other but the reason for today's shit performance and shit result was that the players didn't put a shift in and didn't show 10% of the required level of desire and energy.

No ifs no buts. Simple as that.

And this is becoming a recurring theme and was under Mancini too. They don't seem to respond to tough love, Mancini style and seem to take the piss out of the cuddly approach of Pellegrini.

What to do with them?

At the end of this season I would have a mass clear out of players that don't add sufficient value and don't have the hunger to be consistent winners.

We have a many players coming up to 18m left on their contracts and for me it's time to sell the majority.

Dzeko, Richards, Nasri, Kolorov, Milner, Lescott.

Only Nasri of that bunch has shown sufficient improvement to consider keeping him. Even so, with his wages and the chance of him reverting to shite again once the ink is dry, maybe it's also the end for him.

Hart needs to be told that unless he picks up he will be joining them.

 

[avoidconfusion]

Re: Clueless manager

Pellegrini simply isn't good enough and I wouldn't be surprised if he is gone after this season or perhaps even earlier depending on where we are in the table in January.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Then why wouldn't they employ you on the fraction of the wages? after watching many city managers and england one's in particular i have come to the conclusion that either managers are
either vastly overrated or us fans are clueless

That's always the easy reply though.

Bottom line is, and you can check the pre-match thread, but as soon as the team was announced I said we'd struggle and it was the wrong side for today's game. Blatantly obvious he was relying on Sergio and Beast to win the game with no regard whatsoever about what we were going to face.

He should have mixed it up, gone 4-2-3-1 for example, and certainly, and I hate repeating myself, but ay manager who starts with Garcia, especially in a 4-4-2 really is bordering on being fucking clueless.

MP is certainly testing my patience.

You misunderstood i completely agree with you in fact the vast majority do, but i cannot understand why he does it, nobody with his experience in the game can be so daft, unless he can see something we can't, somebody somewhere must be able to come up with a reason for the garcia toure partnership, Pellegrini has a very good reputation in the game so what is he seeing that we are not

No probs, apologies mate, I'm still so fucking irritated by that shite today, it completely fucks up my day and puts me in a shit frame of mind for the week ahead.

Even lots of vino isn't helping....

;-)

 

[Blueles61]

Re: Clueless manager

Pellegrini simply isn't good enough and I wouldn't be surprised if he is gone after this season or perhaps even earlier depending on where we are in the table in January.

He's 60. I don't think he was ever going to be long term.

 

[OB1]

So Micah (the stronger right back) stood on the half way line probably talking to Yaya about flash cars or what to eat at San Carlo's later tonight whilst Miller (the weaker covering right back) had to cover for him didn't contribute to their first goal. Yes Milner was pushed in his back but was it enough to send him sprawling, I genuinely don't know and would Micha have stood the challenge better, again I don't know. Watch Micah continually being caught out of position stood holding his hands out whilst staring into oblivion with that 'WTF' look on his face all game. Zabba's twice the defender and attacker and you play your strongest starting eleven at all times for me.

Red herring, Prof. Micah was following AJ, his man. Milner had his back and Bardsley, his man. Milner was fouled. You can quibble over whether Micah should have marked his zone or his man but both are reasonable options. The goal was the ref's fault not Pelle's or Micah's or Milner's.

So is Micah still in Sunderland following him around now then. What happened to keeping your shape, sure if Micah got skinned by Johnson then shit happens and that's acceptable but to be pulled out of position like that nah not for me. Once AJ drops deep then he's Milners man surely.

Milner filled in a right back on the goal. Nothing wrong with that, good team work. The only reason that Milner didn't win the ball was a shove in his neck from behind when he was running at speed made him fall over.

Anyway. I've had enough for tonight.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Then why wouldn't they employ you on the fraction of the wages? after watching many city managers and england one's in particular i have come to the conclusion that either managers are
either vastly overrated or us fans are clueless

That's always the easy reply though.

Bottom line is, and you can check the pre-match thread, but as soon as the team was announced I said we'd struggle and it was the wrong side for today's game. Blatantly obvious he was relying on Sergio and Beast to win the game with no regard whatsoever about what we were going to face.

He should have mixed it up, gone 4-2-3-1 for example, and certainly, and I hate repeating myself, but ay manager who starts with Garcia, especially in a 4-4-2 really is bordering on being fucking clueless.

MP is certainly testing my patience.

hard to argue with this.

Fucking hell mate, we're agreeing? That makes a refreshing change!

 

[Bluescholar]

Re: Clueless manager

I'm fed up of squad rotation. Why does it have to be 4/5/6 players? Use the same nucleus of the team and rotate 1 or 2 if necessary.

Fernandinho, Nasty and Silva all picked up injuries. And those are only the ones we know about.

The full backs were rotated. I am surprised anyone is using this as a factor for our loss. It's just a straw to grasp at and use to blame for the defeat

I can't come up with any explanations myself tat are any better, but there's nothing to be gained from just piling on he misery. The only beneficiary is Man Utd and Arsenal

Yeah, I know 3 changes we due to injuries, but he needs to stop the rotation, and stick with a settled team when he can, which he doesn't.
These are young, fit athletes that should be able to play 2 games a week without being tired.

Exactly. Pick your best available until injury or suspension takes them out. Players want to play every game.
Oh and never pick a starting 11 with Garcia AND Kolarov in,1 is daft but both is just criminal.

 

[Marvin]

I like all the squad players at City

if your top players are out, and the other better players under-perform, you'll struggle

What do you want City to do? Sell a whole batch of players and buy again? You'd be the first to criticise if we did that

Ref made a big mistake, and SAFC from that moment defended poorly whilst City rushed their attacking moves feeling the pressure

We just have to play our way through this poor spell of form away, and we'll probably need a run of luck and Silva on form to get us back to the better place

 

[ballinio]

Re: Clueless manager

Pellegrini simply isn't good enough and I wouldn't be surprised if he is gone after this season or perhaps even earlier depending on where we are in the table in January.

2 year contract, I don't think the owners were that sure about him either