Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 3)

[Ray78]

What happened to the Chilean guest who posted around the time Pellegrini was appointed? He or She would give us a bit of balance to the discussion.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

I don't get why any small amount of criticism aimed at the new gaffer is a hanging offence on here.

Its not, and its often not a "small amount" either.

Funny how its often absent when we're winning 5 games out of 6 though, and especially scoring 12 goals in 4 days eh ? I praised the performances when they merited it, and I've bloody criticised him for Sunday's debacle.

What is often lacking from many is perspective, and we have won 5 out 7 games even after Sunday's shit performance, and the other defeat was away at Chelsea, and purely down to monumental fuck up by our keeper.

The reason why people went quiet is because despite earlier away fuck ups, we thought it had been sorted. Sunday proved it blatantly hasn't been. It needs to be sorted. That's what we all want, and not to throw away this opportunity to win the league.

 

[lasereyes]

Re: Clueless manager

We have bloody well lost to Cardiff City, Aston Villa and bloody Sunderland and we drew with Stoke. We won at Upton Park but so has every other bastard. We have picked up 4 measly away points out of a possible 15 and we are fucking 8th with a quarter of the season gone and a manager who seems to have no interest in anything other than the CL, which (mark my words)we will not win. Come bloody on, this is not good enough.

Very insightful. Now explain why all this is Pellegrini's fault and not the players (or the injuries).

 

[Pam]

Re: Clueless manager

We have bloody well lost to Cardiff City, Aston Villa and bloody Sunderland and we drew with Stoke. We won at Upton Park but so has every other bastard. We have picked up 4 measly away points out of a possible 15 and we are fucking 8th with a quarter of the season gone and a manager who seems to have no interest in anything other than the CL, which (mark my words)we will not win. Come bloody on, this is not good enough.

Very insightful. Now explain why all this is Pellegrini's fault and not the players (or the injuries).

Because his selection policy is shite, for a kick off. I am so royally pissed off with this.

 

[Ray78]

Re: Clueless manager

We have bloody well lost to Cardiff City, Aston Villa and bloody Sunderland and we drew with Stoke. We won at Upton Park but so has every other bastard. We have picked up 4 measly away points out of a possible 15 and we are fucking 8th with a quarter of the season gone and a manager who seems to have no interest in anything other than the CL, which (mark my words)we will not win. Come bloody on, this is not good enough.

Very insightful. Now explain why all this is Pellegrini's fault and not the players (or the injuries).

Because his selection policy is shite, for a kick off. I am so royally pissed off with this.

He can only pick what is available. The problem with the defence started last season when Mancini decided to experiment in playing 3 at the back and bringing in his own defensive coach.

 

[CITYBOY1000]

Re: Clueless manager

This thread, or rather certain posts in this thread (glad to see some City fans still have some patience!), are really shameful.

I hate United as much as anyone, but their fans are making a marked effort to support their manager at the moment, hence their atmosphere has improved noticeably lately - exactly what their outgoing ****... err, manager, asked for.

We're becoming the very stereotype they're labelled with. Fickle, sitting on our hands at a stadium that is more and more resembling a library (despite the 1894 Group's best efforts... even Arsenal's atmosphere is better than ours this season), judgmental of everything, only satisfied when everything is perfect (there is a term for that... glory hunting). Ugh. Support the team and manager and if it's all gone tits up by the end of the season, then call for his head instead of being fickle little girls when everything isn't perfect.

I'm convinced many of our fans couldn't handle another bad spell for this club, they've become drunk on glory and accept nothing less now.

This board has become bloody ridiculous.

People on here lose their fucking minds if we so much as draw a match, lose a match and it goes to meltdown. Are things this season going perfect? No. Is it as bad to call for the managers head after 11 games? Seriously No.

Most of it is also point scoring from those still whining about Mancini.

I hope the mods can do something because it's getting out of hand.

can understand people's frustrations. 100 million spent in the summer and the results have been pretty terrible. Our performances haven't actually been that bad, but as others have said, 4 points from away games is simply terrible considering that the majority are teams that will be in the bottom half of the table.

I've a few concerns to be honest.

When you start losing regularly you find things spiral. We are losingthat fear factor that we worked so hard to build. Teams will fancy us now and will frustrate us at home more as we become desparate for points.

It's about being realistic rather than all the 'positivity-negativity' bullsh*t.

It is early to be calling for heads to roll. Nevertheless, it's not too early to at least be smelling the coffee. We'll get turned over in Europe by the first decent team we draw and will probably end up out of the top 4 at the end of the season based on what we've seen thus far. I don't see what is wrong with expressingan opinion. It isn't like we have 'Thought Police' on this forum is it ?

 

[Pam]

Re: Clueless manager

Very insightful. Now explain why all this is Pellegrini's fault and not the players (or the injuries).

Because his selection policy is shite, for a kick off. I am so royally pissed off with this.

He can only pick what is available.

Zabba was available. Should have started him and made him captain in Vinny's absence. And can you explain why he wasn't watching the bloody game half the time? Are you in any way concerned that he might be out of his depth.

 

[lasereyes]

Criticise when criticism is due.
Praise when praise is due.

I don't get why any small amount of criticism aimed at the new gaffer is a hanging offence on here. He seriously got it wrong tactically yesterday so he was rightly critcised by many.Just as he is praised by all for our fantastic home form
I don't get this "People want him to fail" bull which is simply not true.
What we want is for him to pick the best side available to him,stop tinkering with the defence week in week out and and get it tactically right to counter the opposition.Just as he did at Chelsea despite the result.
Isn't this his role?
We compare to Mancini simply because isn't that all we have to compare him to at present?

I will openly admit that I haven't taken to this guy but I want him to be a success as I do any manager however if the club decide to sack him then I will support the clubs decision and we move on. I think WBA away and Southampton away look daunting at the moment but as a previous poster mentioned,this is city we are talking about and you just never know what they are going to do.

You can compare all you like but it's the revisionist history that's rather laughable. Nothing has happened this season that we haven't seen under Bobby M. Like defeats at the likes of Sunderland, Swansea, Southampton; Joe Hart howlers, mass confusion over the formation, abjectly ordinary players being continually selected, etc. etc. We are alive in 2 cup competitions, including the CL and are 6pts off the league leaders with more than 2/3 of the season to go. 11 matches isn't enough to judge anything let alone a brand new manager who is learning the ins and outs of the PL.

 

[Ray78]

Re: Clueless manager

Because his selection policy is shite, for a kick off. I am so royally pissed off with this.

He can only pick what is available.

Zabba was available. Should have started him and made him captain in Vinny's absence. And can you explain why he wasn't watching the bloody game half the time? Are you in any way concerned that he might be out of his depth.

Not concerned in the slightest. The only time I will voice my concerns is during next season and if he is making the same mistakes again.

 

[lasereyes]

Re: Clueless manager

Because his selection policy is shite, for a kick off. I am so royally pissed off with this.

He can only pick what is available.

Zabba was available. Should have started him and made him captain in Vinny's absence. And can you explain why he wasn't watching the bloody game half the time? Are you in any way concerned that he might be out of his depth.

This is 20/20 hindsight. Zabs was brilliant last season, but frankly he has been fairlyordinary this season. Maybe going through a lean spell from which he can bounce back. But given this and the fact Zabs started against Norwich and CSKA in the past week starting RIchards was not necessarily a bad call. And Richards frankly was no worse than Toure.