Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 4)

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Exeter Blue I am here said:
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PELLEGRINIS MAN MANAGMENT OF DZEKO

1) City have won barclays Asia trophy and Dzeko was named the BEST player of the tournament
2) Dzeko have had great game against Milan and scored 2 goals.
3) Pellegrini had publicly said that Dzeko is his Main man
4) Dzeko was MOTM in first match against Newcastle ( by City and by league ) - Pellegrini said it was not enough, and he needs to score. It was f* 1 GAME and the Krul was great as he was for instance few days ago against Tottenham.
5) in 2 match Dzeko scored beauty opener at 52 min ( asis by.Aguero - who by some dont work good with Dzeko) and was benched at 69 min. by Negredo
6) Dzeko had played bad at 3 game and was subbed after 45 min ( ?? ), again Negredo
7) THAT WAS ALL THE CHANCE THAT HE GIVE TO HIM. AFTER GREAT PRE SEASON, MOTM match, SOLID GAME against Cardiff where he could score one more if he was not subbed and JUST ONE BAD 45 min - HE was made a SUB by Pellegrini and was THROWN OUT OF ROTATION ( which Mancini never did and he had 4 strikers not 3 ).
8) STOKE AWAY ( Negredo played 90 min + DID NOT socore or assist, Dzeko 0 min ).
9) Plzen AWAY Dzeko scored opener at 48 and was subbed at 83 min by Negredo. ( SOLID game for Dzeko ).
10) game against Man. United ( Negredo played first 75 min DID not score, but have had SOLID all around preformance ).
11) Carling cup game where Dzeko AGAIN scored an OPENER , SOLID again
12) VILLA AWAY. he played Dzeko and Negredo BOTH. Dzeko had looked at least not worse than Negredo he did not score or at lest have an assist, Dzeko AGAIN SCORED and was AGAIN subbed at 74 min ,and Negredo was AGAIN left for full 90 MIN.
13) Bayern game. Pellegrini knew that he have to play 4/5/1 like against Chelsea. But because having an easyiest CL groups so far he give Dzeko ( and Navas, Richards ) LAST chance for the starting SPOT. Very very BAD move and to make things worst he played 4/4/2 which was a disaster, Richard was fresh out of injury and Navas was wery bad ( guilty of 1 goal no assists ). Whole right side was terrible, Dzeko did not have ONE good ball assisted for him. Subbed by 57 min by Negredo. Than he PUT in SILVA he had made beautifull assist for Negredo he scored very nice goal ( at 0 : 3 for Bayern ). Silva of course took Bayern defance by suprisse becase he is MILES better than Navas. PERFECT SCENARIO he gave Dzeko a chance YEAH RIGHT. Now he have an ALIBI why not playing Dzeko. He had 57 min chance against Bayern.
14 ) vs Everton ( at home ) solid preformance By Negredo ( tap in at home ) 90 min, Dzeko 0 min ).
15) West Ham away Negredo 66 min did not socre Dzeko 0 min
16) CSKA moscow AWAY , Negredo 72 min ( did not score )
17) Chelsea Away ( Negredo just a few minuts - neutral )
18) Newcastle AWAY , Dzeko socred and asisted Negredo ( by beating his defender - a guy who does only scoring aparently ) , and got 9.0 out of 10 very good performance for Dzeko and Solid for Negredo
19) Norwich HOME. This game was a turning point. Pellegrini knew that City will won. After giving Negredo so many opportunitis and CSKA game in front ( which he knew he will play Negredo ). He should at least give Dzeko FULL GAME to score some goals which would be good for City in long terms. He did not. He gave him 45 min and he told a press that is just to REST NEGREDO. Dzeko Scored beauty goal where he beats his defender and scored from big range with his left foot and Negredo has scored a TAP IN goal.BIG MISTAKE. It was obvious that he does not care about Dzeko one bit and that he is DESPERATE for Negrdo to score some easy goals and to get foothold. The rotation was dead. HE forced Dzeko in his further moves.
20 CSKA home Negredo had scored against weak team which weas breaked by an early goal 2 TAP INS from 2,3 m and ONE SOLID GOAL with his head in 90 min. Dzeko did not play.
21 ) Sunderland AWAY Negredo 71 min no affect, no assist, Dzeko played for 19 had one great shot was at least AS good as Negredo.

PELLEGRINI FORCED Dzeko AWAY from this club. HE SHOULD BE blamed for every sucess/lose. He should gave Dzeko at least Norwich game so he can build his game so he can be at LEAST effective SUB. I fear that Pellegrinis master plan wont work. He will have more bad results. Dzeko will not bo so afficient SUB as he was, becasue serios lack of game time.

At press confernce Pellegrini said that Negredo and Aguero are GREAT but also midfield of Nasri, Silva , Yaya and Fernandinho. BUT where id Dzeko there, He said it all about his plans on Dzeko. MANCINI HAD ALWAYS SAID ( wise man ) when reporters asked him Tevez, played great or Aguero played great he ALWAYS said YES BUT I HAVE 4 WC STRIKERS. HE said at least 10 times that Dzeko is the one of the best strikers in the world. BY rotation he was keeping Dzeko Match FIT. Pellegrini had maid huge BET and RISK HERE, by totaly ignoring Dzeko.
The worst thing here is that Negredo is not twice the player as Dzeko so he can justify so many more games.

Dzeko is not his ONLY mistake. Not using Jovetic ( enough ) and playing average Garcia in front of Rodwell /( just take the last game ). You can add to that that he has no PLAN B and is to predictable. Against Totenham he will play: Hart, Zabaleta - Kompany/Demichelis - Nastasic - Clichy, Silva - Fernandinho - YAYA - Nasri, Aguero - Negredo. His subs will be Kolarov and Navas, the 3 one will be Dzeko ( if he needs to score ) or Milner ( if he need to close the game down ).

Negredo was BAD in ALL AWAY games where he scored only 1 goal. Where Dzeko with a lot of less minuts scored 2. The make the matter worse DZEKO WAS KNOW as CITYS BEST SCORER IN AWAY GAMES ( hard goals - said by Platt) where he was usualy very good but he was usualy bad/worse in home games.

A quite phenomenal lack of objectivity and insight. If not the most unintentionally hilarious post I've ever seen on Bluemoon, then certainly one close to it. I'm off for a lie down.....
I think he makes some fairly reasonable points, I add I would currently pick beast over Dzeko, but I'll also add I find the scapegoating that is frequently found on here pretty distasteful, that is of course with the exception of Garcia. Seriously Ed is far far away from being our weak link and the point he made that is still fresh in my mind at least is Negs did precious little v Sunderland (he was not alone, Aguero for example was quiet also), however within what one or two minutes? Ed did at least force a decent save out of their previously unworked keeper)

I'm no Dzeko fanboy, but he is a very useful player one I think can make a difference, and one I sincerely hope when we sell we don't sell to another PL team cos I know it will haunt us if we do. Top teams need a minimum of 3 top strikers, ideally a title challenging team would like four. We have three and it seems some want that down to two. I'll add when will people get off Kolarov's back. He has been our best left back by a distance this season, quite whats happened to Gael, who knows, but for me the only player who justifies questioning is Garcia and this is on the grounds that I have yet to see an adequate performance from him, ALL the others have been in and out. On topic, Pelle keeps picking him??? Pelle keeps rotating the one area of the pitch that benefits from stability. Pelle takes too long to recognise his plan a is working and all too often his plan b is too similar to plan a.
 
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Lancet Fluke said:
Isn't it more relevant where the shots are from than how many shots? I'd rather concede 20 shots from outside the box than 2 one on ones. I'd be more interested to know how many chances we are giving away rather than how many shots.


Well you go and find that stat: I'd love to know where to get it.

I think you will find that a lot of shots City have conceded have been from outside the box. Sunderland for instance had three shots from outside, one from just inside the box and their goal.
 
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the rest of football including the rags are pissing themselves at the way we have shot ourselves in the foot since winning the league. not only have we gone backwards we are compounding it at every opportunity.
 
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I think we will all have a clearer picture regarding Pellegrini around the Christmas period when he has a fully fit squad to choose from . If we are being fair to him , losing Kompany has been a blow , and Harts mystifying loss of form has continued from last season . Granted he hasn't done himself any favours by playing Garcia particularly out of position at centre half and his inability to set up our defence away from home is causing concern . Personally i think he needs time , but time is something not everyone is prepared to give .
 
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de niro said:
the rest of football including the rags are pissing themselves at the way we have shot ourselves in the foot since winning the league. not only have we gone backwards we are compounding it at every opportunity.

Didn't see many of the cunts laughing at old Trafford in March or The Etihad a few weeks ago. No united fan with an iq higher than 20 "pisses himself" about anything to do with city any more.

Every united fan I know knows full well that we have overtaken them and is very afraid, in fact probably more like expectant, of the time we actually click and fulfil our true potential. They all know that time is closer now than ever. I work with and talk to a lot of 'proper' football every day and pretty much every knowledgeable neutral in football holds a similar opinion: that city will hit top gear soon and be very hard to stop.

The only people frightened and paranoid are a tiny percentage of our fans, and a particular kind, but they'll change their tune soon enough.
 
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de niro said:
the rest of football including the rags are pissing themselves at the way we have shot ourselves in the foot since winning the league. not only have we gone backwards we are compounding it at every opportunity.
The rags pissing themselves,now that is a classic.We should have a classic statements thread and put this as the leader !
 
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de niro said:
the rest of football including the rags are pissing themselves at the way we have shot ourselves in the foot since winning the league. not only have we gone backwards we are compounding it at every opportunity.

Get rid of pellegrini and go further backwards its only a matter of time bdfore these away results turn round then watch us go!
 
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uwe rosler 28 said:
de niro said:
the rest of football including the rags are pissing themselves at the way we have shot ourselves in the foot since winning the league. not only have we gone backwards we are compounding it at every opportunity.

Get rid of pellegrini and go further backwards its only a matter of time bdfore these away results turn round then watch us go!

What is the reasoning behind believing the away results will turn around?

If we lose another 3 games (less than we already have lost) we almost certainly, based on all precedents, won't win the title.
 
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Didsbury Dave said:
de niro said:
the rest of football including the rags are pissing themselves at the way we have shot ourselves in the foot since winning the league. not only have we gone backwards we are compounding it at every opportunity.

Didn't see many of the ***** laughing at old Trafford in March or The Etihad a few weeks ago. No united fan with an iq higher than 20 "pisses himself" about anything to do with city any more.

Every united fan I know knows full well that we have overtaken them and is very afraid, in fact probably more like expectant, of the time we actually click and fulfil our true potential. They all know that time is closer now than ever. I work with and talk to a lot of 'proper' football every day and pretty much every knowledgeable neutral in football holds a similar opinion: that city will hit top gear soon and be very hard to stop.

The only people frightened and paranoid are a tiny percentage of our fans, and a particular kind, but they'll change their tune soon enough.
Well you don't tend to laugh when you've just been beaten, though I'm sure they had a little giggle to themselves when they lifted the league title a few weeks later. As I'm sure they're having a little giggle now, knowing that for all our money, all the talk of a new direction, finally getting rid of a manager who held us back (allegedly) and mocking their own replacement for GPC, we find ourselves behind them after 11 games played.
How have we overtaken them? Sponsorships? No. Trophies? No. Ability to snatch the best players from their grasp? No, not really unless you say Nasri. Fan base? No.
So whilst you and all your knowledgable mates pat each other on the backs on your astute opinions on City, maybe just hold off for a bit and look at the facts, not hypertheticals.
It wouldn't be a DD post without a snide dig at those blues who are beneath you, one where you don't name names but drop your hints. Paranoid and frightened? You need to have a word with yourself because your not the fucking footballing oracle that you think you are.
 
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Pablo1 said:
Didsbury Dave said:
de niro said:
the rest of football including the rags are pissing themselves at the way we have shot ourselves in the foot since winning the league. not only have we gone backwards we are compounding it at every opportunity.

Didn't see many of the ***** laughing at old Trafford in March or The Etihad a few weeks ago. No united fan with an iq higher than 20 "pisses himself" about anything to do with city any more.

Every united fan I know knows full well that we have overtaken them and is very afraid, in fact probably more like expectant, of the time we actually click and fulfil our true potential. They all know that time is closer now than ever. I work with and talk to a lot of 'proper' football every day and pretty much every knowledgeable neutral in football holds a similar opinion: that city will hit top gear soon and be very hard to stop.

The only people frightened and paranoid are a tiny percentage of our fans, and a particular kind, but they'll change their tune soon enough.
Well you don't tend to laugh when you've just been beaten, though I'm sure they had a little giggle to themselves when they lifted the league title a few weeks later. As I'm sure they're having a little giggle now, knowing that for all our money, all the talk of a new direction, finally getting rid of a manager who held us back (allegedly) and mocking their own replacement for GPC, we find ourselves behind them after 11 games played.
How have we overtaken them? Sponsorships? No. Trophies? No. Ability to snatch the best players from their grasp? No, not really unless you say Nasri. Fan base? No.
So whilst you and all your knowledgable mates pat each other on the backs on your astute opinions on City, maybe just hold off for a bit and look at the facts, not hypertheticals.
It wouldn't be a DD post without a snide dig at those blues who are beneath you, one where you don't name names but drop your hints. Paranoid and frightened? You need to have a word with yourself because your not the fucking footballing oracle that you think you are.
100% post of the week.
 
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