Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 4)

[flb]

Interesting win stats for Europes top managers
Guardiola 70%
Ferguson 60%
Mourinho 60%
Ancelotti. 56%
Wenger. 56%
Mancini. 55%
Benitez. 55%
Pellagrini. 49%
Klopp. 49%


No doubt the Pellagrini wanking circle will boo hoo the stats as irrelivant

For sustained success it needs to be better than winning 1 in 2 , his loss rate is 1 in 4

More stats, but you don't tell us what they are based on ? All games, league games, CL games, european games ?

All games

 

[PragueBlue]

At the moment this is my take on it:
maybe to me this is because our football isnt as attractive as it was (however I will say that we are moving the ball quicker in some games which is good to see)

I would have to disagree with that. I think generally our play under Pellegrini has been more attractive than last season.

 

[simon23]

At the moment this is my take on it:
maybe to me this is because our football isnt as attractive as it was (however I will say that we are moving the ball quicker in some games which is good to see)

I would have to disagree with that. I think generally our play under Pellegrini has been more attractive than last season.

fair enough..i just prefer the more intricut approach that we had under RM rather than the slightly more direct approach we are taking now

 

[flb]

At the moment this is my take on it:
maybe to me this is because our football isnt as attractive as it was (however I will say that we are moving the ball quicker in some games which is good to see)

I would have to disagree with that. I think generally our play under Pellegrini has been more attractive than last season.

I disagree also, we were much more controlled in the past two seasons, conceding very little chances for the opposition.At the moment as Simon says we are a shambles at the back, offensively we look good, when teams press us in midfield and gain possession we look vulnerable.

 

[Lavinda Past]

At the moment this is my take on it:
maybe to me this is because our football isnt as attractive as it was (however I will say that we are moving the ball quicker in some games which is good to see)

I would have to disagree with that. I think generally our play under Pellegrini has been more attractive than last season.

I disagree also, we were much more controlled in the past two seasons, conceding very little chances for the opposition.At the moment as Simon says we are a shambles at the back, offensively we look good, when teams press us in midfield and gain possession we look vulnerable.

Well he did promise that we'd see football like nothing we'd seen before...

 

[The_Mo]

At the moment this is my take on it:
maybe to me this is because our football isnt as attractive as it was (however I will say that we are moving the ball quicker in some games which is good to see)

I would have to disagree with that. I think generally our play under Pellegrini has been more attractive than last season.

I disagree also, we were much more controlled in the past two seasons, conceding very little chances for the opposition.At the moment as Simon says we are a shambles at the back, offensively we look good, when teams press us in midfield and gain possession we look vulnerable.

A bit like we were under Maek Hughes?

 

[BosnianDragon]

At the moment this is my take on it:

As an attacking team we have more options ( a plan b so to speak)..we do vary our way of attacking now which we didnt really do under RM. However are we attacking better? IMHO no we arent.....maybe to me this is because our football isnt as attractive as it was (however I will say that we are moving the ball quicker in some games which is good to see)

Defensively we are a shambles regardless of what the stats say. We are all over the palce every time someone attacks us whether it results in a goal or a chance or not..........as individuals and as a unit we have gone backwards hugely in this area...part of this can be blamed on the absence of VK but a large part of it is also down to MP..whether it be his rotation of other players at the back or poor team selection/tactics in the midfield area...we are simply wide open a lot of the time.

My overall feeling is that we wont get near wining the league (cup ccmps are a bit of a lottery and can come down to the luck of the draw and teams having on or off days)...the league for me is the guideline and is more important than the champs league (though i understand why financially this is important)....winning the league says to me that we are the best team in the country and imho we are not looking like getting anywhere near that at the moment

I dont want MP gone I want him to succeed BUT he has got an awful lot to do for me and I havent been impressed by what Ive seen so far (even in games where we have won at times)

So far I see MP just changing players (based on media pressure) and not have real attempt to improve our deffense (for most of part he did not even realize he has deffense issues). Football is a game that evolves and you have to follow the trend. Instead analayzing games, founding basic/foundation problem, indentifaying new approach/tactics to correct problem, training deffense on new tactics and finaly implementing tactics in match; he decided for cheap solutions by changing players which in betwen lines means putting all blame on them. In reality he just scratched the surface, but it is a good way to temporary save your authority.

 

[OB1]

Interesting win stats for Europes top managers
Guardiola 70%
Ferguson 60%
Mourinho 60%
Ancelotti. 56%
Wenger. 56%
Mancini. 55%
Benitez. 55%
Pellagrini. 49%
Klopp. 49%


No doubt the Pellagrini wanking circle will boo hoo the stats as irrelivant

For sustained success it needs to be better than winning 1 in 2 , his loss rate is 1 in 4

More stats, but you don't tell us what they are based on ? All games, league games, CL games, european games ?

All games

Pellegrini's win stats in his year at Real Madrid were 75%, weren't they? Given the resources at City, it is not unreasonable to think that he might produce a bloody decent win percentage with us if he is given time and support.

 

[simon23]

His picking of yaya and garcia worries me greatly as well....ok he was tied somewhat by injuries and maybe not being able to pur rodwell in (as it could have been a risk) but he should therefore have changed formation and played with a 5 in midfield and one forward.......pushign yaya further up the pitch....anyone who has watched us play in the last season would know that that pairing is disasterous.

 

[flb]

More stats, but you don't tell us what they are based on ? All games, league games, CL games, european games ?

All games

Pellegrini's win stats in his year at Real Madrid were 75%, weren't they? Given the resources at City, it is not unreasonable to think that he might produce a bloody decent win percentage with us if he is given time and support.

75% in a two horse race- a league akin to the Scottish premier

The PL is a different cup of tea altogether<br /><br />-- Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:30 am --<br /><br />

His picking of yaya and garcia worries me greatly as well....ok he was tied somewhat by injuries and maybe not being able to pur rodwell in (as it could have been a risk) but he should therefore have changed formation and played with a 5 in midfield and one forward.......pushign yaya further up the pitch....anyone who has watched us play in the last season would know that that pairing is disasterous.

Naive in the extreme, Garcia plays better when he has Fernandino wiping his arse