Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 4)

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Daily Star reporting that MP has stripped the Vice-Captaincy from Zaba and given it to Yaya permanently. Interesting this is coming after the lethargic performance from Yaya. Said to have angered some in the locker room. My question is why make this unpopular move now?

Cos Zabbas a ****???




:-)

 

[gelly]

I dont know what's going on with Pelle but in Mancini's time here he hasn't been lower than 6th place at the start of his reign. He went third in his first full season. And in the last two seasons drops no lower than 2nd. Something just doesn't add up with Pellegrini.

 

[kupest]

In response to the reports of Zaba losing his vice captaincy, he was bound to lose it because Yaya was always the captain for Pelle when Kompany din't play from the first match itself. This comes as no surprise now as it was clear Zaba was always third in line behind Kompany and Yaya. That said I prefer Zaba as the captain over Yaya, but again Yaya will play all the games and Zaba won't (However poor Richards has been he will fill in for Zaba even in BPL at times).

 

[Bill]

In response to the reports of Zaba losing his vice captaincy, he was bound to lose it because Yaya was always the captain for Pelle when Kompany din't play from the first match itself. This comes as no surprise now as it was clear Zaba was always third in line behind Kompany and Yaya. That said I prefer Zaba as the captain over Yaya, but again Yaya will play all the games and Zaba won't (However poor Richards has been he will fill in for Zaba even in BPL at times).

pelli isn't wooden enough to rotate again in the prem. Richards is a good understudy to zab but at the moment zab is the better full back. micah should be in at cb once vinny and nasty are out. twice the cb Garcia is.

 

[moomba]

Daily Star reporting that MP has stripped the Vice-Captaincy from Zaba and given it to Yaya permanently. Interesting this is coming after the lethargic performance from Yaya. Said to have angered some in the locker room. My question is why make this unpopular move now?

Or why has this been leaked now?

 

[OB1]

How old is he? He will be gone in two season, if he last.

He is 4 years younger than Wenger who is still going strong.

Its the slippery little shit Tixxi who has the final say on selections.

You think Txiki picks the team every week? REALLY? He is a director of football - almost every top club in Europe with a few exceptions has one. Just like all of them, he DOESN'T pick the team. Do you think Sammer is in charge of selections at Bayern? Zorc at Dortmund? Marotta at Juve? No, no, and no. Just like at City.

Gods, this forum lately... I've had a browse at forums of two clubs with similar up-and-down starts, United and Chelsea, and they are backing their manager and team a lot more than many people here, because it's 1/4 of the way through the season with 6pts between 1st and 8th. Those eager for heads to roll should wait until the end of the season, rather than the first sign things aren't perfect. Remember our title-winning season when we fell 10pts behind or so? I'm sure half of the people calling for Pellegrini's head wanted Mancini's head to roll around that time.

There are some really awful posts from some ignorant, very biased and very ill-informed posters at the moment.

That is true.

None of us will agree on everything. I don't share all your views on 4-4-2 but, bloody hell, at least you have done your homework and tried to be objective. I just fear that a lot of opinions are driven by ongoing indignation at things that have nothing to do with the reality of who Pellegrini is and what he is trying to do.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I dont know what's going on with Pelle but in Mancini's time here he hasn't been lower than 6th place at the start of his reign. He went third in his first full season. And in the last two seasons drops no lower than 2nd. Something just doesn't add up with Pellegrini.

And in the three previous seasons 19 points after 11 games would have seen us no lower than 6th. Let's see where we end up after 38 games shall we?

We've got exactly the same points as we got from the equivalent games last season and Pellegrini has already achieved the first of his objectives.

 

[paulchapo]

It is hard to say how i feel about the man to be honest.He comes across as amiable enough and calm but doesn't seem to be very driven or passionate.At times some of our football has been exhilarating contrasting sharply with some appalling defending.He is the polar opposite to Mancini and there are suspicions in my mind that he was chosen as a yes man,someone who will toe the line and not rock the boat.Perhaps the bigger picture is he was brought in to steady the ship and lay the foundations for the arrival of Pep Guardiola in 3-5 years time?

 

[hgblue]

He is 4 years younger than Wenger who is still going strong.



You think Txiki picks the team every week? REALLY? He is a director of football - almost every top club in Europe with a few exceptions has one. Just like all of them, he DOESN'T pick the team. Do you think Sammer is in charge of selections at Bayern? Zorc at Dortmund? Marotta at Juve? No, no, and no. Just like at City.

Gods, this forum lately... I've had a browse at forums of two clubs with similar up-and-down starts, United and Chelsea, and they are backing their manager and team a lot more than many people here, because it's 1/4 of the way through the season with 6pts between 1st and 8th. Those eager for heads to roll should wait until the end of the season, rather than the first sign things aren't perfect. Remember our title-winning season when we fell 10pts behind or so? I'm sure half of the people calling for Pellegrini's head wanted Mancini's head to roll around that time.

There are some really awful posts from some ignorant, very biased and very ill-informed posters at the moment.

That is true.

None of us will agree on everything. I don't share all your views on 4-4-2 but, bloody hell, at least you have done your homework and tried to be objective. I just fear that a lot of opinions are driven by ongoing indignation at things that have nothing to do with the reality of who Pellegrini is and what he is trying to do.

Discontent is driven by results and performances. Always has been and always will be.

 

[Marvin]

It is hard to say how i feel about the man to be honest.He comes across as amiable enough and calm but doesn't seem to be very driven or passionate.At times some of our football has been exhilarating contrasting sharply with some appalling defending.He is the polar opposite to Mancini and there are suspicions in my mind that he was chosen as a yes man,someone who will toe the line and not rock the boat.Perhaps the bigger picture is he was brought in to steady the ship and lay the foundations for the arrival of Pep Guardiola in 3-5 years time?

There is no real way for us to gauge his drive or passion. Shouting and screaming from the technical box achieves what?

A quiet man who barely speaks can be just as intense and driven as a "Craig Bellamy", what matters more is the decision-making and ability to convey their ideas to the team.

There are different management styles. Perhaps the best manager is someone who can raise his voice and anger occasionally where necessary. Someone who is always flying off the handle will have zero impact when they really need to make their feelings known.