Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 4)

[bobmcfc]

No chance. Best defensive record 3 seasons on the spin - and highest scorers in one to boot - is more than just two players saving our arses. Same players under Hughes couldn't defend to save their lives. Under Mancini it was like night and day. Pellers will be different again and so far it hasn't worked. How it will pan out over the course of the season is cause for legitimate debate which is fine but lets not start reinventing the past. Our record over the last three seasons is what it is.

No one's reinventing the past or changing the record but I sat in game after game during Maincini's reign where people around me fretted about us looking shaky at the back and it wasn't all a case of Cityitis.

Seriously? You and others thought we looked shaky at the back? Christ if you thought that was shaky then you must have gone from 'fretting' to 'hysterical panic' at this seasons defensive wobbles.

Or hyperventilating into a paper bag like me

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

The point is simple mate ... you said last season that injuries disrupted it ... but this season you're saying injuries are not an excuse ... yet we've had similar injuries to key players as last season. I agree the quality of our squad is better with Fernandinho replacing Barry and Negredo replacing Balo. But this doesn't change our vulnerability to an injury to Vinny. Yes it's something which should've been addressed in the summer, and whether the club tried or not they failed. But the end result is the same as it was last season. No Vinny means the back line like porous.

I think that some have a rather romanticised view of our defending under Mancini. Our back four often looked vulnerable and didn't we have a tendency not to stop crosses at source? What frequently saved us were the interventions of Kompany and Hart. If we had those two playing regularly in top form...

And for the record, my comment above is not any sort of dig at Mancini or a suggestion that he didn't do a lot of excellent work on our defending as a team.

No chance. Best defensive record 3 seasons on the spin - and highest scorers in one to boot - is more than just two players saving our arses. Same players under Hughes couldn't defend to save their lives. Under Mancini it was like night and day. Pellers will be different again and so far it hasn't worked. How it will pan out over the course of the season is cause for legitimate debate which is fine but lets not start reinventing the past. Our record over the last three seasons is what it is.

Nonetheless Kompany made a phenomenal amount of difference to that defence, and the plain truth is that he's barely played for Pellegrini. He didn't play a great deal second half of last season either, and it was no surprise that we looked less secure than at any time during Mancini's reign. Pellegrini is a good enough manager to win the title. That defence, sans Kompers, ain't, and that fact wouldn't change whether Pellegrini, Mancini, Guardiola, Mourinho or Alan Ball were in charge

 

[OB1]

No chance. Best defensive record 3 seasons on the spin - and highest scorers in one to boot - is more than just two players saving our arses. Same players under Hughes couldn't defend to save their lives. Under Mancini it was like night and day. Pellers will be different again and so far it hasn't worked. How it will pan out over the course of the season is cause for legitimate debate which is fine but lets not start reinventing the past. Our record over the last three seasons is what it is.

No one's reinventing the past or changing the record but I sat in game after game during Maincini's reign where people around me fretted about us looking shaky at the back and it wasn't all a case of Cityitis.

Seriously? You and others thought we looked shaky at the back? Christ if you thought that was shaky then you must have gone from 'fretting' to 'hysterical panic' at this seasons defensive wobbles.

Sometimes. And I'm not fretting anymore now than before.

 

[flb]

I think that some have a rather romanticised view of our defending under Mancini. Our back four often looked vulnerable and didn't we have a tendency not to stop crosses at source? What frequently saved us were the interventions of Kompany and Hart. If we had those two playing regularly in top form...

And for the record, my comment above is not any sort of dig at Mancini or a suggestion that he didn't do a lot of excellent work on our defending as a team.

No chance. Best defensive record 3 seasons on the spin - and highest scorers in one to boot - is more than just two players saving our arses. Same players under Hughes couldn't defend to save their lives. Under Mancini it was like night and day. Pellers will be different again and so far it hasn't worked. How it will pan out over the course of the season is cause for legitimate debate which is fine but lets not start reinventing the past. Our record over the last three seasons is what it is.

Nonetheless Kompany made a phenomenal amount of difference to that defence, and the plain truth is that he's barely played for Pellegrini. He didn't play a great deal second half of last season either, and it was no surprise that we looked less secure than at any time during Mancini's reign. Pellegrini is a good enough manager to win the title. That defence, sans Kompers, ain't, and that fact wouldn't change whether Pellegrini, Mancini, Guardiola, Mourinho or Alan Ball were in charge

The only thing that let us down last year was our chance completion rate, we scored 68 goals with 34 against. Our defence was sound it was our strikers that let us down.

All this stroking Pellagrinis ego is laughable, Kompany is out blah blah blah.

It's desperation from the Manuel wanking circle.

His teams have NEVER had great defensive records, that's why he's never won anything in the past 10 years.

 

[OB1]

No chance. Best defensive record 3 seasons on the spin - and highest scorers in one to boot - is more than just two players saving our arses. Same players under Hughes couldn't defend to save their lives. Under Mancini it was like night and day. Pellers will be different again and so far it hasn't worked. How it will pan out over the course of the season is cause for legitimate debate which is fine but lets not start reinventing the past. Our record over the last three seasons is what it is.

Nonetheless Kompany made a phenomenal amount of difference to that defence, and the plain truth is that he's barely played for Pellegrini. He didn't play a great deal second half of last season either, and it was no surprise that we looked less secure than at any time during Mancini's reign. Pellegrini is a good enough manager to win the title. That defence, sans Kompers, ain't, and that fact wouldn't change whether Pellegrini, Mancini, Guardiola, Mourinho or Alan Ball were in charge

The only thing that let us down last year was our chance completion rate, we scored 68 goals with 34 against. Our defence was sound it was our strikers that let us down.

All this stroking Pellagrinis ego is laughable, Kompany is out blah blah blah.

It's desperation from the Manuel wanking circle.

His teams have NEVER had great defensive records, that's why he's never won anything in the past 10 years.

Real Madrid conceded 35 league goals under him; one more than we conceded last season.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

No chance. Best defensive record 3 seasons on the spin - and highest scorers in one to boot - is more than just two players saving our arses. Same players under Hughes couldn't defend to save their lives. Under Mancini it was like night and day. Pellers will be different again and so far it hasn't worked. How it will pan out over the course of the season is cause for legitimate debate which is fine but lets not start reinventing the past. Our record over the last three seasons is what it is.

Nonetheless Kompany made a phenomenal amount of difference to that defence, and the plain truth is that he's barely played for Pellegrini. He didn't play a great deal second half of last season either, and it was no surprise that we looked less secure than at any time during Mancini's reign. Pellegrini is a good enough manager to win the title. That defence, sans Kompers, ain't, and that fact wouldn't change whether Pellegrini, Mancini, Guardiola, Mourinho or Alan Ball were in charge

The only thing that let us down last year was our chance completion rate, we scored 68 goals with 34 against. Our defence was sound it was our strikers that let us down.

All this stroking Pellagrinis ego is laughable, Kompany is out blah blah blah.

It's desperation from the Manuel wanking circle.

His teams have NEVER had great defensive records, that's why he's never won anything in the past 10 years.

Hmmm, if you simplified things any further you'd be in remedial class. But whatever, you consider we defended well against Southampton, Wigan, Everton, Spurs, Norwich and Liverpool in the second half of last season, or in the Bernebau, or home or away against Dortmund and Ajax, then do you? And yeh, chance completion rate, every bit as important as a solid defence. Pity we couldn't break down QPR last season, or Swansea, or Everton, or Sunderland, or Wigan, and so forth. We might not have finished 10 points or whatever it was behind the rags. We're superior in one department this season, and weaker in another, and we're weaker in that other because we're missing the only defender we have with the power, pace and finesse to play a high defensive line. If you can't see that, I can't help you.
As for the reason Pellegrini ain't won 'owt, it's simple enough. Nobody bar Barca or Real wins 'owt in Spain.

 

[Bill]

We can comment on Pellegrini because he is the current manager-a manager who is way out of his depth in this league.A manager who is simply a yes man to the Spanish pair of baffoons, a manager who will - in my opinion - win absolutely nothing with City,and a manager who looks fucking haunted by the task he has taken on.

Hahaha. You are singlehandedly going to turn this thread into one that ends up in the Classics section of the forum.

Oh well - rather do that than use terms such as window licker to abuse fellow posters.
You simply have no idea do you what that means!!

I am going to toss a coin, shb you call. the loser of you two boring fuckers is getting a night off.
time and time you two go at each other and hitting the report button ffs. why not just fucking foe each other.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Hahaha. You are singlehandedly going to turn this thread into one that ends up in the Classics section of the forum.

Oh well - rather do that than use terms such as window licker to abuse fellow posters.
You simply have no idea do you what that means!!

I am going to toss a coin, shb you call. the loser of you two boring fuckers is getting a night off.
time and time you two go at each other and hitting the report button ffs. why not just fucking foe each other.

Is that one of those double sided coins Bill?? Don't worry I'm going mate,said my piece earlier regarding your mate on the Soriano thread and low and behold it has been wiped.
Laters

 

[flb]

Nonetheless Kompany made a phenomenal amount of difference to that defence, and the plain truth is that he's barely played for Pellegrini. He didn't play a great deal second half of last season either, and it was no surprise that we looked less secure than at any time during Mancini's reign. Pellegrini is a good enough manager to win the title. That defence, sans Kompers, ain't, and that fact wouldn't change whether Pellegrini, Mancini, Guardiola, Mourinho or Alan Ball were in charge

The only thing that let us down last year was our chance completion rate, we scored 68 goals with 34 against. Our defence was sound it was our strikers that let us down.

All this stroking Pellagrinis ego is laughable, Kompany is out blah blah blah.

It's desperation from the Manuel wanking circle.

His teams have NEVER had great defensive records, that's why he's never won anything in the past 10 years.

Real Madrid conceded 35 league goals under him; one more than we conceded last season.

Two horse league<br /><br />-- Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:31 pm --<br /><br />

Nonetheless Kompany made a phenomenal amount of difference to that defence, and the plain truth is that he's barely played for Pellegrini. He didn't play a great deal second half of last season either, and it was no surprise that we looked less secure than at any time during Mancini's reign. Pellegrini is a good enough manager to win the title. That defence, sans Kompers, ain't, and that fact wouldn't change whether Pellegrini, Mancini, Guardiola, Mourinho or Alan Ball were in charge

The only thing that let us down last year was our chance completion rate, we scored 68 goals with 34 against. Our defence was sound it was our strikers that let us down.

All this stroking Pellagrinis ego is laughable, Kompany is out blah blah blah.

It's desperation from the Manuel wanking circle.

His teams have NEVER had great defensive records, that's why he's never won anything in the past 10 years.

Hmmm, if you simplified things any further you'd be in remedial class. But whatever, you consider we defended well against Southampton, Wigan, Everton, Spurs, Norwich and Liverpool in the second half of last season, or in the Bernebau, or home or away against Dortmund and Ajax, then do you? And yeh, chance completion rate, every bit as important as a solid defence. Pity we couldn't break down QPR last season, or Swansea, or Everton, or Sunderland, or Wigan, and so forth. We might not have finished 10 points or whatever it was behind the rags. We're superior in one department this season, and weaker in another, and we're weaker in that other because we're missing the only defender we have with the power, pace and finesse to play a high defensive line. If you can't see that, I can't help you.
As for the reason Pellegrini ain't won 'owt, it's simple enough. Nobody bar Barca or Real wins 'owt in Spain.

Are you his agent?

 

[flb]

The only thing that let us down last year was our chance completion rate, we scored 68 goals with 34 against. Our defence was sound it was our strikers that let us down.

All this stroking Pellagrinis ego is laughable, Kompany is out blah blah blah.

It's desperation from the Manuel wanking circle.

His teams have NEVER had great defensive records, that's why he's never won anything in the past 10 years.

Real Madrid conceded 35 league goals under him; one more than we conceded last season.

Two horse league

-- Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:31 pm --

The only thing that let us down last year was our chance completion rate, we scored 68 goals with 34 against. Our defence was sound it was our strikers that let us down.

All this stroking Pellagrinis ego is laughable, Kompany is out blah blah blah.

It's desperation from the Manuel wanking circle.

His teams have NEVER had great defensive records, that's why he's never won anything in the past 10 years.

Hmmm, if you simplified things any further you'd be in remedial class. But whatever, you consider we defended well against Southampton, Wigan, Everton, Spurs, Norwich and Liverpool in the second half of last season, or in the Bernebau, or home or away against Dortmund and Ajax, then do you? And yeh, chance completion rate, every bit as important as a solid defence. Pity we couldn't break down QPR last season, or Swansea, or Everton, or Sunderland, or Wigan, and so forth. We might not have finished 10 points or whatever it was behind the rags. We're superior in one department this season, and weaker in another, and we're weaker in that other because we're missing the only defender we have with the power, pace and finesse to play a high defensive line. If you can't see that, I can't help you.
As for the reason Pellegrini ain't won 'owt, it's simple enough. Nobody bar Barca or Real wins 'owt in Spain.

Are you his agent?

I'm with it now- it's all down to our one decent defender.


Keep blowing your bugle

 

[kenzie115]

Numbers are more my game petal, but hey you keep creaming your pants about apostrophes and keep dreaming about top four.

I've got a maths degree, doesn't stop me from understanding the English language.

If you really think we won't make the top 4, that it's just a dream, why not put your money where your mouth is?

Childish in the extreme

How is it childish to suggest you should make some money from your so called certainty? You can get odds of about 3/1 for us not to finish in the top 4, you must think that's fairly good considering you believe it's just a dream.

If you want to make it more interesting I'll offer you 3/1 right now for a charity bet. The winner can choose which charity the loser should make the donation to.

 

[flb]

I've got a maths degree, doesn't stop me from understanding the English language.

If you really think we won't make the top 4, that it's just a dream, why not put your money where your mouth is?

Childish in the extreme

How is it childish to suggest you should make some money from your so called certainty? You can get odds of about 3/1 for us not to finish in the top 4, you must think that's fairly good considering you believe it's just a dream.

If you want to make it more interesting I'll offer you 3/1 right now for a charity bet. The winner can choose which charity the loser should make the donation to.

I doubt you could afford a decent bet


Stick to the student bar

 

[kenzie115]

Childish in the extreme

How is it childish to suggest you should make some money from your so called certainty? You can get odds of about 3/1 for us not to finish in the top 4, you must think that's fairly good considering you believe it's just a dream.

If you want to make it more interesting I'll offer you 3/1 right now for a charity bet. The winner can choose which charity the loser should make the donation to.

I doubt you could afford a decent bet

Stick to the student bar

Not so bright are you? You see, to have obtained a degree you have to have graduated, meaning you're no longer a student.

I have no knowledge of your personal situation so couldn't possibly comment on whether I could afford more or less than you for a flutter, but surely any bet is decent if the proceeds are for charity?

How's £50 sound? Unless you're too big-time for that?

 

[flb]

How is it childish to suggest you should make some money from your so called certainty? You can get odds of about 3/1 for us not to finish in the top 4, you must think that's fairly good considering you believe it's just a dream.

If you want to make it more interesting I'll offer you 3/1 right now for a charity bet. The winner can choose which charity the loser should make the donation to.

I doubt you could afford a decent bet

Stick to the student bar

Not so bright are you? You see, to have obtained a degree you have to have graduated, meaning you're no longer a student.

I have no knowledge of your personal situation so couldn't possibly comment on whether I could afford more or less than you for a flutter, but surely any bet is decent if the proceeds are for charity?

How's £50 sound? Unless you're too big-time for that?

How's £50?

Student loan ?<br /><br />-- Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:06 pm --<br /><br />

I doubt you could afford a decent bet

Stick to the student bar

Not so bright are you? You see, to have obtained a degree you have to have graduated, meaning you're no longer a student.

I have no knowledge of your personal situation so couldn't possibly comment on whether I could afford more or less than you for a flutter, but surely any bet is decent if the proceeds are for charity?

How's £50 sound? Unless you're too big-time for that?

How's £50?

Student loan ?

Cheque made payable to "Manuel's last job in football fund?"

 

[kenzie115]

I doubt you could afford a decent bet

Stick to the student bar

Not so bright are you? You see, to have obtained a degree you have to have graduated, meaning you're no longer a student.

I have no knowledge of your personal situation so couldn't possibly comment on whether I could afford more or less than you for a flutter, but surely any bet is decent if the proceeds are for charity?

How's £50 sound? Unless you're too big-time for that?

How's £50?

Student loan ?

That a no then?

[bigimg]http://www.vynalforsale.com/Big_Time_Charlie_Ocean.jpg[/bigimg]

 

[OB1]

The only thing that let us down last year was our chance completion rate, we scored 68 goals with 34 against. Our defence was sound it was our strikers that let us down.

All this stroking Pellagrinis ego is laughable, Kompany is out blah blah blah.

It's desperation from the Manuel wanking circle.

His teams have NEVER had great defensive records, that's why he's never won anything in the past 10 years.

Real Madrid conceded 35 league goals under him; one more than we conceded last season.

Two horse league.

And that is the adult response to being proven to be wrong. Like a little kid screaming "not fair, doesn't count".

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Not so bright are you? You see, to have obtained a degree you have to have graduated, meaning you're no longer a student.

I have no knowledge of your personal situation so couldn't possibly comment on whether I could afford more or less than you for a flutter, but surely any bet is decent if the proceeds are for charity?

How's £50 sound? Unless you're too big-time for that?

How's £50?

Student loan ?

That a no then?

[bigimg]http://www.vynalforsale.com/Big_Time_Charlie_Ocean.jpg[/bigimg]

Why do you make it fairer and have the bet as finishing in the top 2
That's just over evens,flick of a coin
I don't even think pellegrini could take us out of the top 4,so that bet is stacked in your favor.

 

[flb]

Real Madrid conceded 35 league goals under him; one more than we conceded last season.

Two horse league.

And that is the adult response to being proven to be wrong. Like a little kid screaming "not fair, doesn't count".

Proven to be wrong?

So your right then ?<br /><br />-- Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:15 pm --<br /><br />

How's £50?

Student loan ?

That a no then?

[bigimg]http://www.vynalforsale.com/Big_Time_Charlie_Ocean.jpg[/bigimg]

Why do you make it fairer and have the bet as finishing in the top 2
That's just over evens,flick of a coin
I don't even think pellegrini could take us out of the top 4,so that bet is stacked in your favor.

I'm up for that, tell Einstein it's £100

 

[kenzie115]

Two horse league.

And that is the adult response to being proven to be wrong. Like a little kid screaming "not fair, doesn't count".

Proven to be wrong?

So your right then ?

-- Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:15 pm --

That a no then?

[bigimg]http://www.vynalforsale.com/Big_Time_Charlie_Ocean.jpg[/bigimg]

Why do you make it fairer and have the bet as finishing in the top 2
That's just over evens,flick of a coin
I don't even think pellegrini could take us out of the top 4,so that bet is stacked in your favor.

I'm up for that, tell Einstein it's £100

My original statement was we'd definitely finish in the top 4, for which you accused me of taking mushrooms. Turns out you weren't so certain after all?

 

[OB1]

Two horse league.

And that is the adult response to being proven to be wrong. Like a little kid screaming "not fair, doesn't count".

Proven to be wrong?

So your right then ?

Sorry but you're really not worth further effort.