Discuss Pellegrini

[dancity19]

Wait a minute, if MP expected them to use pace against a makeshift defence then why did he play Garcia and Lescott, the slowest pairing since Fatboy Bob and Larry No Legs played for the Cock Robin pub team in the 70s?

Is the correct answer - because he had no choice as they were the only two fit players available to play in those positions ... ?

Not saying it would be- especially as I have just written in another thread about Yaya needing to be further forward, BUT, would he have been a better option than Garcia? Certainly probably provided more confidence to the other 3. I imagine, like many others have said, yesterday wasn't so much about Garcia having a poor game, but just the fear that having Garcia and Lescott as the 2 CB's will strike into the rest of the team and the knock on effect that could have on everyone else, clearly Zaba and Clichy who were both at fault for goals.

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

They were a bloody clueless pairing pre season as well.

We were scary today in defence. It was comical and lazy and you would not expect that kind of display from a team with the best defensive record in the prem for the last three seasons.

Kompany back and all is well, just a blip

No it's not. Despite best defence stats over the past three years, how often have we conceded the type of goal that Cardiff dished out on us, Kompany present or otherwise? There's something systematically wrong with our defence and it has to be addressed if we are to get anywhere.

 

[PragueBlue]

but then I'm not a complete fucking moron.

Hhmmm. I agreed with the rest of your post though ;-)

Seriously though, I didn't want Mancini to go, I didn't think Pellegrini was the right choice (and am yet to see any evidence to convince me otherwise) but he got the job and so we should all move on and give him our full support while still retaining the right to question his decisions.

 

[Anonymous]

Wait a minute, if MP expected them to use pace against a makeshift defence then why did he play Garcia and Lescott, the slowest pairing since Fatboy Bob and Larry No Legs played for the Cock Robin pub team in the 70s?

Is the correct answer - because he had no choice as they were the only two fit players available to play in those positions ... ?

Not saying it would be- especially as I have just written in another thread about Yaya needing to be further forward, BUT, would he have been a better option than Garcia? Certainly probably provided more confidence to the other 3. I imagine, like many others have said, yesterday wasn't so much about Garcia having a poor game, but just the fear that having Garcia and Lescott as the 2 CB's will strike into the rest of the team and the knock on effect that could have on everyone else, clearly Zaba and Clichy who were both at fault for goals.

Hindsight's a wonderful thing. Personally I'd never play Yaya at centre half simply because I don't think he's particularly strong in the air or in the tackle. Garcia, as witnessed by the number of headers he wins from attacking corners, is a threat in the air and therefore I can see the logic in playing him at centre half ahead of Toure. I also agree that rather than Garcia particularly having a poor game, there was a nervousness around which Pellegrini probably inadvertently fed by asking the full backs to stay closer to the two centre halves to offer a little more protection.

Be interested to see Rodwell at the back one day. Certainly think he's got all the attributes.

 

[VOOMER]

We have to move on from RM Pam.

Whether MP proves a wise choice or not has little to do with RM.

We can't live in the past but we can learn from the past.

The fans can argue all they like on forums but I doubt the board will give it a seconds thought that we'll bleat amongst ourselves. Pellegrini was their choice to take the club forwards and wether we like it or not what we think is immaterial to them.

The fact anyone has even mentioned the Mancini song coming back is truly the nadir of the last 18 hours ... the cockney chavs did it to Benitez, the scousers did it to Hodgson ... that's the kind of company i'd rather not keep, but then I'm not a complete fucking moron.

They should have backed him last year, we would have won the league and we would have a much stronger squad now and they still could have sacked him as it would have been in line with their holistic approach. Instead we have a squad which is still in need of serious additions and a proxy manager and one in Tixxi, who is unaccountable. We need a seriously good addition in defense, one player would be fine another Navas work horse on the left, that's all.

 

[gelly]

Pellegrini is going to take 6 months to really bed in. Mourinho will run away with the title by then, especially with Eto'o joining them. Moyes with RVP, and probably AVB will be pushing close second.

Mancini really pushed for RVP last season, in this league mobile and incisive strike is the most important thing.

City lost Tevez and Balotelli, far far better strikers than what has come in to replace them.

 

[Italian Manc]

He's sounded naive in his post match interview with regards playing against a team with 10 men behind the ball. Having said that, we broke them down and scored 2 goals, it was defending that let us down. I'll reseve judgement until I've seen more but I think the vast majority can agree that a loss against a newly promoted side is not really expected for a team pushing for the title. Early days yet, I hope MP and the team respond with more application and go on a decent winning streak to get us closer to our goal.

 

[Anonymous]

They should have backed him last year, we would have won the league and we would have a much stronger squad now and they still could have sacked him as it would have been in line with their holistic approach. Instead we have a squad which is still in need of serious additions and a proxy manager and one in Tixxi, who is unaccountable. We need a seriously good addition in defense, one player would be fine another Navas work horse on the left, that's all.

Judging by that post your gripe is ultimately with Khaldoon about the way him and Sheikh Mansour have chosen to run the club.

 

[dancity19]

Is the correct answer - because he had no choice as they were the only two fit players available to play in those positions ... ?

Not saying it would be- especially as I have just written in another thread about Yaya needing to be further forward, BUT, would he have been a better option than Garcia? Certainly probably provided more confidence to the other 3. I imagine, like many others have said, yesterday wasn't so much about Garcia having a poor game, but just the fear that having Garcia and Lescott as the 2 CB's will strike into the rest of the team and the knock on effect that could have on everyone else, clearly Zaba and Clichy who were both at fault for goals.

Hindsight's a wonderful thing. Personally I'd never play Yaya at centre half simply because I don't think he's particularly strong in the air or in the tackle. Garcia, as witnessed by the number of headers he wins from attacking corners, is a threat in the air and therefore I can see the logic in playing him at centre half ahead of Toure. I also agree that rather than Garcia particularly having a poor game, there was a nervousness around which Pellegrini probably inadvertently fed by asking the full backs to stay closer to the two centre halves to offer a little more protection.

Be interested to see Rodwell at the back one day. Certainly think he's got all the attributes.

He is very good in the air, yet that is probably his only attribute. The major worry is if we go 3/4 games without Kompany teams know just how to beat us, or at least try too. 2 corners provides a brilliant platform for teams to work on the week before playing us- and whilst Kompany himself may not have stopped those goals, it is the leadership/structure he provides. (also have we gone back to man to man- perhaps that caused confusion).

Teams like stoke, though not managed by Pulis anymore, will still relish lumping balls into the box- and we never do well at the Britannia. The same goes for Hull, but to lose at home to Hull would be unthinkable. We have just given teams a real base to work upon now.

 

[gelly]

The fans can argue all they like on forums but I doubt the board will give it a seconds thought that we'll bleat amongst ourselves. Pellegrini was their choice to take the club forwards and wether we like it or not what we think is immaterial to them.

The fact anyone has even mentioned the Mancini song coming back is truly the nadir of the last 18 hours ... the cockney chavs did it to Benitez, the scousers did it to Hodgson ... that's the kind of company i'd rather not keep, but then I'm not a complete fucking moron.

They should have backed him last year, we would have won the league and we would have a much stronger squad now and they still could have sacked him as it would have been in line with their holistic approach. Instead we have a squad which is still in need of serious additions and a proxy manager and one in Tixxi, who is unaccountable. We need a seriously good addition in defense, one player would be fine another Navas work horse on the left, that's all.

Yes after winning the league he should have got the players he really wanted, rather than 3 rejects. Mancini could have pushed on and cemented City's place among the elite. And also taken advantage of the changes in management. I think Txiki is underestimating the task at hand and the quality needed to win the title and even just games against bottom half in the Premier League.