Discuss Pellegrini

[Marvin]

The wounds caused by the whole Mancini should stay/go debate are still tender.

Why can't we just move on?

You do realise that sadly this is just the beginning, egos have been damaged and now the tables have turned.

The inners are outers and the outers are now inners, I can't see an end to it to be honest and I think it's going to rattle on all season, unfortunately.

You may see it like that. I'm just concerned at the way we're playing

 

[mammutly]

The wounds caused by the whole Mancini should stay/go debate are still tender.

Why can't we just move on?

You do realise that sadly this is just the beginning, egos have been damaged and now the tables have turned.

The inners are outers and the outers are now inners, I can't see an end to it to be honest and I think it's going to rattle on all season, unfortunately.

Just as I feared would happen, people need to just get on with supporting the club

Comparing the present with the past is natural, as is speculating about the future.

If we all just lived in the moment and nodded in agreement there'd be nothing to discuss and most threads would be full of posts saying "ditto".

 

[Phil1]

The wounds caused by the whole Mancini should stay/go debate are still tender.

Why can't we just move on?

You do realise that sadly this is just the beginning, egos have been damaged and now the tables have turned.

The inners are outers and the outers are now inners, I can't see an end to it to be honest and I think it's going to rattle on all season, unfortunately.

I don't think that's a fair reflection on everybody who was an inner - I'm more than happy to give Pellegrini a fair chance as are the majority of posters on here, and certainly the match going blues who I talk to.
It looks to me that a handful are just relishing the chance to have a go back at those who took their irrational hatred of Mancini too far.
It won't stop whilst the likes of Fantasy Ireland have snide digs in pretty much every thread where there's a chance to and Billy continues to relish the part of pantomime villain.

 

[George Hannah]

In a Parisian garret with eerie shadows dancing on the peeling walls cast by a flickering gaslight, a hunched figure coos over a quivering bundle of fur whose destiny is the unspeakable horror that is...Silence of the Hamsters

I'm sure this was him in The Little Paris Kitchen TV programme

 

[VOOMER]

The wounds caused by the whole Mancini should stay/go debate are still tender.

Why can't we just move on?

You do realise that sadly this is just the beginning, egos have been damaged and now the tables have turned.

The inners are outers and the outers are now inners, I can't see an end to it to be honest and I think it's going to rattle on all season, unfortunately.

You may see it like that. I'm just concerned at the way we're playing

exactly, no shape, no real difference from last season accept we've already lost away at a newly promoted team. It was a shambles at times because of the problems at the back. Something that needed addressing years ago, lack of depth in terms of quality. It would be unfair to blame the current manager, but the last one should have been backed , not undermined by the very people who should know better.

 

[Skashion]

All getting uncomfortably personal in here.

One question raised by Razak leaving, shortly after Suarez, (our two best prospects in my book), I thought Pellegrini was brought in as part of a holistic approach to foster links between the EDS and the main squad, but we've let our two best prospects go in less than a fortnight. It's a head scratcher. I genuinely thought I saw the vision of Soriano and Txiki, but apart from Guidetti, who's been here longer than Mansour (and it;s looking a lot less likely he'll be called upon now that we've gone and spent on four attacking players this summer), we've let go of what I consider the players we might have needed/wanted in the near future. I feel a touch irritated. I was on board with the vision but what happened to it?

 

[kaz7]

The wounds caused by the whole Mancini should stay/go debate are still tender.

Why can't we just move on?

You do realise that sadly this is just the beginning, egos have been damaged and now the tables have turned.

The inners are outers and the outers are now inners, I can't see an end to it to be honest and I think it's going to rattle on all season, unfortunately.

I was an inner but i will never become an outer

 

[Danamy]

All getting uncomfortably personal in here.

One question raised by Razak leaving, shortly after Suarez, (our two best prospects in my book), I thought Pellegrini was brought in as part of a holistic approach to foster links between the EDS and the main squad, but we've let our two best prospects go in less than a fortnight. It's a head scratcher. I genuinely thought I saw the vision of Soriano and Txiki, but apart from Guidetti, who's been here longer than Mansour (and it;s looking a lot less likely he'll be called upon now that we've gone and spent on four attacking players this summer), we've let go of what I consider the players we might have needed/wanted in the near future. I feel a touch irritated. I was on board with the vision but what happened to it?

If you look across from the ground you'll see £150 million worth of vision being erected

 

[FantasyIreland]

Suarez and Razak,in particular,were far from being our best prospects,neither would have made it here.

We need to make room for the genuine talent coming through,those two leaving is a start.

 

[Skashion]

If you look across from the ground you'll see £150 million worth of vision being erected

Didn't realise Pellegrini was going to here to see that to fruition.

 

[FantasyIreland]

If you look across from the ground you'll see £150 million worth of vision being erected

Didn't realise Pellegrini was going to here to see that to fruition.

Lets hope so though eh?

 

[Danamy]

If you look across from the ground you'll see £150 million worth of vision being erected

Didn't realise Pellegrini was going to here to see that to fruition.

Do you not think he'll be here at the start of next season then?

 

[Skashion]

Lets hope so though eh?

As I'm currently under the impression that Pellegrini is a stopgap between Mancini and Guardiola, and Soriano and Txiki have stated they expect frequent managerial cycles (three or four years they said), I just don't think so. I don't think that's the intention. I think Pellegrini's here for two or three years. If he's being brought in, partly, to help integrate the EDS into the main squad, I don't understand letting the best players we've got in the EDS leave. Who from the EDS is going to be making regular appearances in the next two years? Those two would have been my bets, along with Guidetti.<br /><br />-- Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:08 am --<br /><br />

If you look across from the ground you'll see £150 million worth of vision being erected

Didn't realise Pellegrini was going to here to see that to fruition.

Do you not think he'll be here at the start of next season then?

Do you think the campus is going to be churning out first-team level talent as soon as it opens? That's not the point of it. It's long-term. Pellegrini is short to medium term.

 

[FantasyIreland]

I'd hope Pellegrini being successful would mean his extension.Besides i'm sure the academy will be up and running even within your time predictions.

Rekik,Fofana,Lopes,Leigh,Pozo,Rusnak,Deyana,amongst others......... all top prospects imo,and should soon be knocking.......

 

[Marvin]

All getting uncomfortably personal in here.

One question raised by Razak leaving, shortly after Suarez, (our two best prospects in my book), I thought Pellegrini was brought in as part of a holistic approach to foster links between the EDS and the main squad, but we've let our two best prospects go in less than a fortnight. It's a head scratcher. I genuinely thought I saw the vision of Soriano and Txiki, but apart from Guidetti, who's been here longer than Mansour (and it;s looking a lot less likely he'll be called upon now that we've gone and spent on four attacking players this summer), we've let go of what I consider the players we might have needed/wanted in the near future. I feel a touch irritated. I was on board with the vision but what happened to it?

What did you see in Razak? Gave away possession and free-kicks.

 

[Skashion]

What did you see in Razak?

The next Yaya.

 

[fredmont]

Rather than be expected to produce the best players through the youth set up, though this is possible, it may be used as a 'farm' , making a few million lets say on most young players that go through the system selling them on to lesser clubs. With this money and our increasing income from sales/partnerships etc
we can still buy the best from elsewhere and keep within Fair Play limits.

If our owners stay with us, in five years we could be watching the best players in the world and these will probably not have come through our system, no matter how much Pelli is involved.

 

[Danamy]

Lets hope so though eh?

As I'm currently under the impression that Pellegrini is a stopgap between Mancini and Guardiola, and Soriano and Txiki have stated they expect frequent managerial cycles (three or four years they said), I just don't think so. I don't think that's the intention. I think Pellegrini's here for two or three years. If he's being brought in, partly, to help integrate the EDS into the main squad, I don't understand letting the best players we've got in the EDS leave. Who from the EDS is going to be making regular appearances in the next two years? Those two would have been my bets, along with Guidetti.

-- Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:08 am --

Didn't realise Pellegrini was going to here to see that to fruition.

Do you not think he'll be here at the start of next season then?

Do you think the campus is going to be churning out first-team level talent as soon as it opens? That's not the point of it. It's long-term. Pellegrini is short to medium term.

We wont be buying first team players like we did in this window again for a long time, once the academy opens and as our scouting networks widen we'll be looking to bring the best youth prospects from around the world.

Even if they see Pellegrini as short/medium term we'll already potentially have his successor at the club overseeing future first team players, now that's vision. ;-)

 

[Skashion]

Rather than be expected to produce the best players through the youth set up, though this is possible, it may be used as a 'farm' , making a few million lets say on most young players that go through the system selling them on to lesser clubs. With this money and our increasing income from sales/partnerships etc
we can still buy the best from elsewhere and keep within Fair Play limits.

If our owners stay with us, in five years we could be watching the best players in the world and these will probably not have come through our system, no matter how much Pelli is involved.

That does not tally with statements made about how Mancini didn't pay enough (any) attention to the youth setup, never went to an EDS game, that Pellegrini would be a cog in the new holistic City promoting prospects from the EDS to the main squad. I really can't see many others on the verge. Pozo and Lopes might get the odd cup game but they'd have had that under Mancini. I was excited about the prospect of seeing more youth come through but I'd have to say the prospects appear downgraded over the past fortnight.<br /><br />-- Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:31 am --<br /><br />

Even if they see Pellegrini as short/medium term we'll already potentially have his successor at the club overseeing future first team players, now that's vision. ;-)

As I said, my expectation is that Guardiola will be our next manager. I think he's in Munich learning English or something.

 

[Danamy]

Rather than be expected to produce the best players through the youth set up, though this is possible, it may be used as a 'farm' , making a few million lets say on most young players that go through the system selling them on to lesser clubs. With this money and our increasing income from sales/partnerships etc
we can still buy the best from elsewhere and keep within Fair Play limits.

If our owners stay with us, in five years we could be watching the best players in the world and these will probably not have come through our system, no matter how much Pelli is involved.

That does not tally with statements made about how Mancini didn't pay enough (any) attention to the youth setup, never went to an EDS game, that Pellegrini would be a cog in the new holistic City promoting prospects from the EDS to the main squad. I really can't see many others on the verge. Pozo and Lopes might get the odd cup game but they'd have had that under Mancini. I was excited about the prospect of seeing more youth come through but I'd have to say the prospects appear downgraded over the past fortnight.

-- Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:31 am --

Even if they see Pellegrini as short/medium term we'll already potentially have his successor at the club overseeing future first team players, now that's vision. ;-)

As I said, my expectation is that Guardiola will be our next manager. I think he's in Munich learning English or something.

I think when the time is right Vieira will get the nod, he'll teach, nurture and bring through the talent ala Guardiola at Barca.