Discuss Pellegrini

[BobKowalski]

Heres a thought. Why don't we discuss Pellegrini and the games played and the changes made and the positives or negatives of those changes or discuss why we have gone to man marking at corners or why as Toure concedes we 'lost concentration' - the Mancini mantra for his first 18 months here and the importance of the right mentality at a top club and how or what Pellegrini brings to the table in this regard and I say this if only because the OP is entitled 'Discuss Pellegrini' and you ***** are boring me to fucking tears with the girly bitching...

Aside from this I'm cool.

PS: Seriously? We are doing **** for naughty words now? Christ on a fucking bike we've gone holistic. Its the end of days.

Hasn't **** always been ****ed?

Probably. What with Cameron and his war on porn and not allowing the majesty of the word **** to be heard what is the point of the fucking Internet?

 

[Anonymous]

Why do you bother replying to him, it gives him a sense of self-importance? The irony of him telling us to get behind the manager and that most of us are wanting Manuel to fail, you couldn't make it up. Everytime we got beat in the last 2 years we've had to put with his hatred of "The Italian" and even now it's Mancini's fault. I've also noticed only 2 of the 3 Amigos in here, where's Dismal hiding?

I'm trying to reduce the amount of conflict I get into here. I see potential in uniting around a new manager. Billy has been more friendly to me as well so I'm going to continue being more friendly to him. However, I still find it illogical that the Outers want me to get mad at Mancini for looking out for himself when the club did exactly the same thing. Neither was loyal. You can get angry at both, or angry at neither (my preference), but you cannot be logically mad at one but not the other.

This comes back to the irrationality of the football fan thingy doesn't it - ie we see City as something precious and integral to our very identities whereas those connected with the club (owners, directors, players, managers etc) see it as nothing more than a business/job.

 

[Anonymous]

Apologise Bob, I took your Tesco comment out of context. Here it is in full:

Mancini irrespective of what some people think has demonstrated through actual silverware that he can bring success at the top level. We can argue if that success is enough or whether other managers like Jose could bring even bigger success at this level - which is fair and legitimate debate - but not the Pellegrini's of this world. Some people can run a corner shop and others can run Tesco's. But don't think doing well at the former makes you even close to being competent at running the latter.

So it's been clear for a while you simply don't rate Pellegrini. Stands to reason then that after two games you'd be making sweeping generalisations about how we can't defend anymore and it's all the managers fault.

 

[andyhinch]

Heres a thought. Why don't we discuss Pellegrini and the games played and the changes made and the positives or negatives of those changes or discuss why we have gone to man marking at corners or why as Toure concedes we 'lost concentration' - the Mancini mantra for his first 18 months here and the importance of the right mentality at a top club and how or what Pellegrini brings to the table in this regard and I say this if only because the OP is entitled 'Discuss Pellegrini' and you ***** are boring me to fucking tears with the girly bitching...

Aside from this I'm cool.

PS: Seriously? We are doing **** for naughty words now? Christ on a fucking bike we've gone holistic. Its the end of days.

Hasn't **** always been ****ed?

Probably. What with Cameron and his war on porn and not allowing the majesty of the word **** to be heard what is the point of the fucking Internet?

You can just turn the swear filter off.

 

[pee dubya]

Apologise Bob, I took your Tesco comment out of context. Here it is in full:

Mancini irrespective of what some people think has demonstrated through actual silverware that he can bring success at the top level. We can argue if that success is enough or whether other managers like Jose could bring even bigger success at this level - which is fair and legitimate debate - but not the Pellegrini's of this world. Some people can run a corner shop and others can run Tesco's. But don't think doing well at the former makes you even close to being competent at running the latter.

So it's been clear for a while you simply don't rate Pellegrini. Stands to reason then that after two games you'd be making sweeping generalisations about how we can't defend anymore and it's all the managers fault.

Yeah well, you admitted that in actual fact you just didn't like Mancini as a person, so you're a little hard to take seriously when questioning the validity and basis of other peoples opinions.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Tensions are escalating.

Rubbish!

The escalations are tensing.

I can wholeheartedly recommend tensing for those suffering from premature escalation.

 

[BobKowalski]

Our defensive setup is now a glaring weakness where previously it was a strength. And its a collective thing. Slagging off Zabs or Garcia is pointless. We defend as a team and attack as a team.

A gross overstatement based on one game, when the manager's only had two games in charge. Seems St Helen isn't the only one who's a little quick to rush to judgement. Then again you did call Pellegrini the Tesco's of football management ... :)

Yes based on one game. Where 3 points were lost. In a league where you can only lose 5 or 6 games. Its a league of fine margins at the top so can the 'its only one game bollocks' especially when in pre season we leaked goals. Besides its as much about why make the change? Does it makes us better defensively in the medium to long term? What is the evidence to support this?

I would like to discuss an issue which directly led to us conceding 2 goals and losing a match where previously we would not have lost. I believe the manner of this loss is important. Others may not. So tell me why its not.

 

[Anonymous]

Apologise Bob, I took your Tesco comment out of context. Here it is in full:

Mancini irrespective of what some people think has demonstrated through actual silverware that he can bring success at the top level. We can argue if that success is enough or whether other managers like Jose could bring even bigger success at this level - which is fair and legitimate debate - but not the Pellegrini's of this world. Some people can run a corner shop and others can run Tesco's. But don't think doing well at the former makes you even close to being competent at running the latter.

So it's been clear for a while you simply don't rate Pellegrini. Stands to reason then that after two games you'd be making sweeping generalisations about how we can't defend anymore and it's all the managers fault.

Yeah well, you admitted that in actual fact you just didn't like Mancini as a person, so you're a little hard to take seriously when questioning the validity and basis of other peoples opinions.

Sure, no problem. I'm not here to please everyone or have the entire forum take me seriously. If anything the last 12 months has been a procession of cunts lining up to tell me what a **** I am. I've got the message ... ;)

 

[TGR]

Why do you bother replying to him, it gives him a sense of self-importance? The irony of him telling us to get behind the manager and that most of us are wanting Manuel to fail, you couldn't make it up. Everytime we got beat in the last 2 years we've had to put with his hatred of "The Italian" and even now it's Mancini's fault. I've also noticed only 2 of the 3 Amigos in here, where's Dismal hiding?

I'm trying to reduce the amount of conflict I get into here. I see potential in uniting around a new manager. Billy has been more friendly to me as well so I'm going to continue being more friendly to him. However, I still find it illogical that the Outers want me to get mad at Mancini for looking out for himself when the club did exactly the same thing. Neither was loyal. You can get angry at both, or angry at neither (my preference), but you cannot be logically mad at one but not the other.

Skashion: You are applying logic to an illogical man / mind / person. It simply will not compute. ;-)

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Why would we care? The club were looking around almost from the day he got here. According to Gary James, we looked at Mourinho in the summer of 2010. According to multiple sources, we were looking at Guardiola in the summer of 2012 but Guardiola said he was taking a year out. Why should we expect faithfulness from Mancini that he didn't get from the club? He'd have been a blind idiot not to look elsewhere and consider his options. Or do we just expect him to get shit on over blind loyalty, like an abused wife?

Why do you bother replying to him, it gives him a sense of self-importance? The irony of him telling us to get behind the manager and that most of us are wanting Manuel to fail, you couldn't make it up. Everytime we got beat in the last 2 years we've had to put with his hatred of "The Italian" and even now it's Mancini's fault. I've also noticed only 2 of the 3 Amigos in here, where's Dismal hiding?

Just to add, I want Manuel to be the most successful manager in our history, I just can't help feeling we've got a downgrade.

It does feel a bit like John Major coming in for Margaret Thatcher.