Gaylord du Bois said:Top four? It's got to be top two with our squad or we've regressed big time. Top three would be a pisser but at least it means we wouldn't need to pre qualify but fourth? fuck that.Beezer said:During our title year, it seemed like other teams in the league didn't want to accept we were that good, but finally caught on about 1/4 to 1/2 way through the season that they had no chance of winning unless they defended and looked for the counter. Also, I think they wanted to try their offensive tactics in the early part of the season to see what they were capable of. Our strikers were all on fire, and if we would simply maintain possession, eventually we would eventually get the win. Mancini adopted the philosophy that with enough pressure, the dam will eventually burst, but it made us look one-dimensional. I thought it was a good idea to try and do something different trying 3 at the back to make us look less one-dimensional, but we simply didn't execute well, and weren't clinical when it came to finishing.
What to rate Pellegrini on after three games? He seems to be a good motivator so far, and his past players recommend him. The true test is whether he can get us to break down teams that bunker without succumbing to the counter-attack. It looks like we are trying to get more width, and go over the top more, but defending the counter has not gone well. Still to early to tell in my opinion, but we need to give Pellegrini and the players all the support possible this season until he gets the team playing the way he wants. I don't anticipate we see the team playing how he wants until Nov-Dec. No need to pile on unrealistic expectations on them at this point, just get a top four finish, and progress to group stage of Champions league, anything beyond that is bonus for me.
PhuketBlue said:Ducado said:Everyone has the right to an opinion
But I must caution that if you say something on here, and the complete opposite happens (like it's just a poor start to the season, that happens to many team) it will be dragged up and used against you forever and a day.
Just one to keep in mind
I rarely see the post almost begging people to believe that under Mancini we'd never win anything (can't remember if it was BS or DD) being brought up, so maybe ridiculously presumptive posts aren't quite as damaging as you suggest.
Personally I don't (and didn't) think the manager is the problem, it's the players. I think Mancini recognised this and that's why he criticised them publicly and demanded changes which weren't supported by the board. Pellegrini has just inherited the same issues.
PhuketBlue said:Ducado said:Everyone has the right to an opinion
But I must caution that if you say something on here, and the complete opposite happens (like it's just a poor start to the season, that happens to many team) it will be dragged up and used against you forever and a day.
Just one to keep in mind
I rarely see the post almost begging people to believe that under Mancini we'd never win anything (can't remember if it was BS or DD) being brought up, so maybe ridiculously presumptive posts aren't quite as damaging as you suggest.
Personally I don't (and didn't) think the manager is the problem, it's the players. I think Mancini recognised this and that's why he criticised them publicly and demanded changes which weren't supported by the board. Pellegrini has just inherited the same issues.
bondsman said:PhuketBlue said:Ducado said:Everyone has the right to an opinion
But I must caution that if you say something on here, and the complete opposite happens (like it's just a poor start to the season, that happens to many team) it will be dragged up and used against you forever and a day.
Just one to keep in mind
I rarely see the post almost begging people to believe that under Mancini we'd never win anything (can't remember if it was BS or DD) being brought up, so maybe ridiculously presumptive posts aren't quite as damaging as you suggest.
Personally I don't (and didn't) think the manager is the problem, it's the players. I think Mancini recognised this and that's why he criticised them publicly and demanded changes which weren't supported by the board. Pellegrini has just inherited the same issues.
Correct but we should have backed Mancini and got rid of the players no matter their name and moved on as fergie has done in the past. I can't stand some of the excuses being made on here for pellegrini though. And I am looking forward to mr shears or dd giving their opinions on this latest result
RandomJ said:marco said:i know we had injuries today and some will use that as an exuse, but i feel this man is out of his depth
He's massively out of his depth. There's a reason he's won fuck all in his career. He's just a yes man for the board.
At least if I was a Japanese soldier I'd have a gun to put a bullet in my head so I wouldn't need to put up with the inept shit served recently!Ducado said:Some of you are like those Japanese soldiers who refused to beleive the war was over and hid in the jungles for ages
Mancini has gone, it's been done to death i's over no going back let it go and move on
Yes he's gone, but those responsible for him going are still here.Ducado said:Some of you are like those Japanese soldiers who refused to beleive the war was over and hid in the jungles for ages
Mancini has gone, it's been done to death i's over no going back let it go and move on
Ducado said:Some of you are like those Japanese soldiers who refused to beleive the war was over and hid in the jungles for ages
Mancini has gone, it's been done to death i's over no going back let it go and move on
Ducado said:Some of you are like those Japanese soldiers who refused to beleive the war was over and hid in the jungles for ages
Mancini has gone, it's been done to death i's over no going back let it go and move on