Donald Trump

[Tugay One Cup]

Whatever people might think about Trump, and personally I think the world would be a discernibly better and safer place without him, anyone thinking his assassination would have done anything other than to make matters even worse and divided in the US is wrong. And there would also almost certainly be severe consequences for the wider world following that.

History has shown us previously that political assassinations can unleash forces that cannot be contained or predicted.

This isn't a loaded question because I'm genuinely interested but do you not think those severe consequences are going to be in effect once that shot is taken, regardless of whether or not the attempt is successful?

 

[Blue Maverick]

See the issue here is you believing Putin, and by extension Russia, are amenable to the effects of diplomacy. We're talking about a terrorist state that has now inflicted suffering and claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands of people. We're talking about a gangster that rigs elections and kills political opponents that are a threat to his demagoguery. He poisons expats on other nations soil; remember Litvinenko? Just last week a children's hospital was bombed on the orders of this ****; do these people deserve diplomacy, or do they forfeit the right to diplomacy? Putin is a Peter the Great obsessive who wants a return to a soviet empire, he wants all Slavic peoples and their sovereign nations under a Russian umbrella.

When the wall fell, Russia was on course to be democratised and embraced by the West. Putin has eroded all that goodwill with his insecurity and Russia has subsequently regressed to it's hitherto pariah state. I highly recommend a book called The New Tsar, it details just how gravely Russia has regressed as a nation over the last twenty years: the sole reason is Putin.

If they do negotiate a settlement and have to give up land (I hope not), they should invite any one from those areas to come in live in the rest of Ukraine, whilst simultaneously joining NATO. Fuck Putin and Russia.

 

[Palerider]

Whatever people might think about Trump, and personally I think the world would be a discernibly better and safer place without him, anyone thinking his assassination would have done anything other than to make matters even worse and divided in the US is wrong. And there would also almost certainly be severe consequences for the wider world following that.

History has shown us previously that political assassinations can unleash forces that cannot be contained or predicted.

Politics has become utterly toxic and you have to worry for democracy. Whatever happened to just debating and then adding up the votes?

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Politics has become utterly toxic and you have to worry for democracy. Whatever happened to just debating and then adding up the votes?

Democracy is what lead us to this point.

If it dies, it dies.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

This isn't a loaded question because I'm genuinely interested but do you not think those severe consequences are going to be in effect once that shot is taken, regardless of whether or not the attempt is successful?

I think the fact it wasn’t fatal means the aftermath is easier to predict and control.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Looking at the wound and entry position how the hell has it not gone through his skull? His ear is flat to his head, he doesn't have Charlie type jug ears

Pure luck, an inch the other way he’s toast!

 

[Palerider]

Democracy is what lead us to this point.

If it dies, it dies.

What a sad comment.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

Politics has become utterly toxic and you have to worry for democracy. Whatever happened to just debating and then adding up the votes?

They tried that, but Donald didn’t like the result.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

What a sad comment.

A lot of sadness in here today. My condolences.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

I think the fact it wasn’t fatal means the aftermath is easier to predict and control.

You're probably right but I've long given up trying to predict what's going to happen next.