Dzeko to Dortmund

How can anybody say we don't need a top striker?

Yes we badly need width and pace, but we also need a clinical goal scorer who scores 8/10 chances he gets and as much as he's class, Aguero is not that player, Tevez was at his best 2 years ago and he took the majority of his chances but he's lost half a yard now and Dzeko is far from clinical. We have missed far too many chances this season in games that have been tight.
 
Matt.D said:
How can anybody say we don't need a top striker?

Yes we badly need width and pace, but we also need a clinical goal scorer who scores 8/10 chances he gets and as much as he's class, Aguero is not that player, Tevez was at his best 2 years ago and he took the majority of his chances but he's lost half a yard now and Dzeko is far from clinical. We have missed far too many chances this season in games that have been tight.


statistics say dzeko is ruthlessly clinical
 
Matt.D said:
How can anybody say we don't need a top striker?

Yes we badly need width and pace, but we also need a clinical goal scorer who scores 8/10 chances he gets and as much as he's class, Aguero is not that player, Tevez was at his best 2 years ago and he took the majority of his chances but he's lost half a yard now and Dzeko is far from clinical. We have missed far too many chances this season in games that have been tight.

Andy Townsend... Is that you?
 
AntiUnited said:
Matt.D said:
How can anybody say we don't need a top striker?

Yes we badly need width and pace, but we also need a clinical goal scorer who scores 8/10 chances he gets and as much as he's class, Aguero is not that player, Tevez was at his best 2 years ago and he took the majority of his chances but he's lost half a yard now and Dzeko is far from clinical. We have missed far too many chances this season in games that have been tight.


statistics say dzeko is ruthlessly clinical

In terms of? Look at chance conversion and shots off target.

We don't have a clinical goal scorer in the squad.
 
sk3ptical said:
Rammy Blue said:
kabuverdimcfc said:
No, no, no!

Why? We need a player like him, tall and strong. I can't make a squad just with little strikers like Barcelona because we play at PREMIER LEAGUE, not at La bullshit Liga. Until Barcelona miss a striker like him (or Ibrahimovic) in matches against psychically strong teams (Celtic, Madrid, ACMilan).

Cavani? Yes, a nice player but, to spend 40m in a player that will be benched by Tevez and Aguero... is stupid.

That's my opinion

Edin_Dzeko_2150668c.jpg

Cavani benched by Tevez.

Best laugh I've had in ages, spilled my brew.
yes cavani is over in italy he cant score a goal to save is life at the moment so yeah bench for tevez

Yet he has still scored at a rate this season which would see him top the scorers table in the premier league. If we had Cavani this season the effect RVP has had on the rags could likely have been negated. As it is all our strikers are scoring less than ever and we don't have the goals of wildcards like Johnno.
 
Matt.D said:
ACMilan said:
Matt.D said:
We don't have a clinical goal scorer in the squad.

Wow. Really?

As an outsider, I disagree... wholeheartedly

Why which of our strikers would you class as clinical?

Well.. based on shots on goal int he Prem, scoring rates are
Aguero 30%
Dzeko 46%
Tevez 28%

All pretty decent rates (Dzeko's is great).

Sure, they misfire a lot of shots... But when they do hit the target, theyre likely to hit the back of it.

In my eyes, 30% or better is pretty clinical.

As an idea:

Ibrahimovic, who some claim to be the most clinical, strikes at 43% rate in Ligue 1
 
ACMilan said:
Matt.D said:
ACMilan said:
Wow. Really?

As an outsider, I disagree... wholeheartedly

Why which of our strikers would you class as clinical?

Well.. based on shots on goal int he Prem, scoring rates are
Aguero 30%
Dzeko 46%
Tevez 28%

All pretty decent rates (Dzeko's is great).

Sure, they misfire a lot of shots... But when they do hit the target, theyre likely to hit the back of it.

In my eyes, 30% or better is pretty clinical.

As an idea:

Ibrahimovic, who some claim to be the most clinical, strikes at 43% rate in Ligue 1

That's a nonsense statistic though as it doesn't take into account shots off target. So if they miss a one on one by putting it of target, it doesn't show into your stats.
 
ACMilan said:
Matt.D said:
We don't have a clinical goal scorer in the squad.

Wow. Really?

As an outsider, I disagree... wholeheartedly


I know, shocking isn't it. Aguero is very clinical indeed. He has such an eye for the corners of the goal. He is truly exceptional just off form this season due to injuries, and I suspect also his reported family concerns haven't helped either.
 
Matt.D said:
That's a nonsense statistic though as it doesn't take into account shots off target. So if they miss a one on one by putting it of target, it doesn't show into your stats.

It's not nonsense... It's also not ideal. but gives a decent picture when speaking of prolific strikers: ones who start regularly.

So what if they miss 1v1's? every player does.
It gives you a basic picture of how clinical a striker is when they hit the target, regardless of how they score it.

Who cares if it's a 40yd screamer, a 1v1 or a chip shot? A goal is a goal.. and a regular starter will always have loads of shots, shots on target etc... As long as they bury at a decent record, it's all good to me
 
Goo said:
ACMilan said:
Matt.D said:
We don't have a clinical goal scorer in the squad.

Wow. Really?

As an outsider, I disagree... wholeheartedly


I know, shocking isn't it. Aguero is very clinical indeed. He has such an eye for the corners of the goal. He is truly exceptional just off form this season due to injuries, and I suspect also his reported family concerns haven't helped either.

Absolute rubbish. Aguero is a world class striker, but he's not close to being a clinical finisher. He scores 1 goal for every 4 chances he misses. You can't argue with the 30 goals he scored last season, but the truth is he misses very easy chances as well.

Vital to us no doubt, but he needs to be the 2nd striker behind a striker with a Falcao or RVP ability to bag 8/10 decent chances they get
 
Matt.D said:
Goo said:
ACMilan said:
Wow. Really?

As an outsider, I disagree... wholeheartedly


I know, shocking isn't it. Aguero is very clinical indeed. He has such an eye for the corners of the goal. He is truly exceptional just off form this season due to injuries, and I suspect also his reported family concerns haven't helped either.

Absolute rubbish. Aguero is a world class striker, but he's not close to being a clinical finisher. He scores 1 goal for every 4 chances he misses. You can't argue with the 30 goals he scored last season, but the truth is he misses very easy chances as well.

Vital to us no doubt, but he needs to be the 2nd striker behind a striker with a Falcao or RVP ability to bag 8/10 decent chances they get

i agree with this, aguero is our best player IMO but if he does need to be more clinical.

if we bought cavani or falcao then we'd see a devastating partnership.
 
ban-mcfc said:
Matt.D said:
Goo said:
I know, shocking isn't it. Aguero is very clinical indeed. He has such an eye for the corners of the goal. He is truly exceptional just off form this season due to injuries, and I suspect also his reported family concerns haven't helped either.

Absolute rubbish. Aguero is a world class striker, but he's not close to being a clinical finisher. He scores 1 goal for every 4 chances he misses. You can't argue with the 30 goals he scored last season, but the truth is he misses very easy chances as well.

Vital to us no doubt, but he needs to be the 2nd striker behind a striker with a Falcao or RVP ability to bag 8/10 decent chances they get

i agree with this, aguero is our best player IMO but if he does need to be more clinical.

if we bought cavani or falcao then we'd see a devastating partnership.


I'm not saying don't buy Falcao, or that Aguero isn't a brilliant second striker as well. But he's far more clinical than people seem to give him credit for. It seems to be the latest "fad" post just to say all our strikers aren't clinical. Some aren't, but Aguero is. Just not at the moment.

In my humble opinion.
 
If he's going (and I am convinced that he is gone) .. thanks Edin for some crucial goals over the seasons (not least the equaliser v QPR !!!!!!)

Good luck in the future.... oh and ffs work on your ball control !!!!
 
Daz_Blue said:
We will sell our target man striker, have 4 small strikers then buy a winger to provide crosses :)

Because scoring with your head is the only way to finish crosses
 
Leandro damaio reps in talks with dortmund <a class="postlink" href="http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/leandro-damiao-il-borussia-dortmund-ci-prova-incontro-con-lagente/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciom ... n-lagente/</a>
 
Hasnt Dortmund Director recently claimed that this whole story is fabricated...? Something in the lines of "our strategy is to develop young players, not to bring in players"...

So...
 

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