Dzeko VS Negredo

Zlatan said:
chris85mcfc said:
ColinLee said:
And you'll find that all of those 10 or 100 different links actually run the exact same story word for word.

-- Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:53 pm --


Hopefully he'll be showing it from the bench.

Zlatan we can only make judgement on what we have seen. You still haven't answered my question about why he has spent so much time on the bench? Or are you saying your judgement on him is better than Mancini and Pellegrini.

Who will spend more time on the bench with mr. Pellegrini is YET to be seen.
Mancini said on Dzeko when city sacked him:
Napoli would get a great striker who gets 25 a season and only has one defect — that he wants to play in every game.’ ( Nobody forced Mancini to tell that and it was confirmed by all media Sky Italia and all the bigest so i guess he dont have so bad opinion about him after all ).
What was your question i would gladly answer it ?

My question to you was why has he not started as many games as you think he should? It can only be for one reason and that is that he isn't good enough to start every game in our team. And if he is as good as you say he is then he only has himself to blame for not adapting himself properly.

Forget what Mancini said about Napoli. He had the opportunity for two years to play him regularly, but he didn't. WHY????

BECAUSE HE ISN'T AS GOOD AS YOU THINK
 
Joe Hart's Dandruff said:
Zlatan said:
Joe Hart's Dandruff said:
Another point to be made is that if Dzeko does start tonight, it will mean a strike force of Dzeko and Aguero. How many times have we been underwhelmed by this partnership over the last few years? They rarely link up well together and the whole time Tevez was here it was he and Aguero who were seen as the best strike force. Dzeko has done nothing to be ahead of Negredo and I will fucking shit if he starts.

EVERYBODY link up well in HUGE games.

That's because Dzeko doesn't usually start them.

I meant generally in football. I watched many many many many games of football. Not just Manchester city.
 
Zlatan said:
pominoz said:
Zlatan said:
van Nistelrooy, Trezeguet, Vucinic, Gomez , Mandzukic, Inzagi, Klose, Shearer and many many more are just good in the box.
And City would probably won more games with him playing regulary because he would be better and better.
And NO city would not have to whait long for him to star playing like u said before ( Tottenham 4 was at the begining of the seasson, , just example ).

Played great in that game, was rested for a European game a few days later, and cracked the shits for most of the season, get rid.
Does not have the mind to be a great player in a great team, it is all about him.
Sad but true.
Move him on to a "second tier team", where he will be "king", best for all concerned.

He is much more team player then Tevez or Balotelli ever was.
Watch my video of him bean usless outside 6 yard box.
Gomez and similars could never do that
JUST FOR YOU, enoy his BAD first touch
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBu-jH2Bf8U" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBu-jH2Bf8U</a> ( this video is ANSWER to all ou your questions, hehe , just watch)

Do those two still play for us? No, so it has fuck all to do with this thread.
We watched youtube clips of Samaras years ago, he was all that we needed, but he had great hair and that was it, a 2 minute clip of a game proves fuck all.
A striker needs to do more than just wait for a tap in or score a once in 10 games goal to cut it here now, thank fuck.<br /><br />-- Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:01 pm --<br /><br />
pominoz said:
Zlatan said:
pominoz said:
Played great in that game, was rested for a European game a few days later, and cracked the shits for most of the season, get rid.
Does not have the mind to be a great player in a great team, it is all about him.
Sad but true.
Move him on to a "second tier team", where he will be "king", best for all concerned.

He is much more team player then Tevez or Balotelli ever was.
Watch my video of him bean usless outside 6 yard box.
Gomez and similars could never do that
JUST FOR YOU, enoy his BAD first touch
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBu-jH2Bf8U" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBu-jH2Bf8U</a> ( this video is ANSWER to all ou your questions, hehe , just watch)

Do those two still play for us? No, so it has fuck all to do with this thread.
We watched youtube clips of Samaras years ago, he was all that we needed, but he had great hair and that was it, a 2 minute clip of a game proves fuck all.
A striker needs to do more than just wait for a tap in or score a once in 10 games goal to cut it here now, thank fuck.
Tevez was a top player for us, no matter how much of a twat, he always gave 100%.
 
Zlatan said:
pominoz said:
Zlatan said:
van Nistelrooy, Trezeguet, Vucinic, Gomez , Mandzukic, Inzagi, Klose, Shearer and many many more are just good in the box.
And City would probably won more games with him playing regulary because he would be better and better.
And NO city would not have to whait long for him to star playing like u said before ( Tottenham 4 was at the begining of the seasson, , just example ).

Played great in that game, was rested for a European game a few days later, and cracked the shits for most of the season, get rid.
Does not have the mind to be a great player in a great team, it is all about him.
Sad but true.
Move him on to a "second tier team", where he will be "king", best for all concerned.

He is much more team player then Tevez or Balotelli ever was.
Watch my video of him bean usless outside 6 yard box.
Gomez and similars could never do that
JUST FOR YOU, enoy his BAD first touch
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBu-jH2Bf8U" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBu-jH2Bf8U</a> ( this video is ANSWER to all ou your questions, hehe , just watch)
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOixhDOMXDw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOixhDOMXDw</a>
If you think Dzeko is a better team player than Tevez(Balo I'll give you) then you really are deluded or just plain thick as everybody believes.
 
Zlatan said:
Joe Hart's Dandruff said:
Zlatan said:
EVERYBODY link up well in HUGE games.

That's because Dzeko doesn't usually start them.

I meant generally in football. I watched many many many many games of football. Not just Manchester city.

You've gone to from chatting shite exclusively about Dzeko, to just chatting shite in general. You can't make a blanket statement that 'EVERYBODY link up well in HUGE games' for God's sake. Teams often under perform, Real Madrid against Athletico on sunday for example. You are just getting silly now.

Stay down champ.
 
chris85mcfc said:
Zlatan said:
chris85mcfc said:
Zlatan we can only make judgement on what we have seen. You still haven't answered my question about why he has spent so much time on the bench? Or are you saying your judgement on him is better than Mancini and Pellegrini.

Who will spend more time on the bench with mr. Pellegrini is YET to be seen.
Mancini said on Dzeko when city sacked him:
Napoli would get a great striker who gets 25 a season and only has one defect — that he wants to play in every game.’ ( Nobody forced Mancini to tell that and it was confirmed by all media Sky Italia and all the bigest so i guess he dont have so bad opinion about him after all ).
What was your question i would gladly answer it ?

My question to you was why has he not started as many games as you think he should? It can only be for one reason and that is that he isn't good enough to start every game in our team. And if he is as good as you say he is then he only has himself to blame for not adapting himself properly.

Forget what Mancini said about Napoli. He had the opportunity for two years to play him regularly, but he didn't. WHY????

BECAUSE HE ISN'T AS GOOD AS YOU THINK

THE answer is SIMPLE.

He didnt because in his start City was the ONLY team in the world to have 4 star strikers. I dont know if there was a team with 3 star strikers. With 2 there are manyyyyyy. So the answer was his position was overcrowded. Bad planing but i think they wanted to sold Tevez but not cheap. And who would by a player who that time left his club-too big risk for the most beside PSG maybe.The plan was Tevez, Dzeko and Balotelli and that was hard to implement. Then there was Munchen accident and they didint sold Tevez, but did bought Aguero as a precaution. All of this 4 players are in reality to good to be on the bench. So everybody knew at least one will be sold and that had happened.
This year the same. It should of be: Aguero, Dzeko or Negredo, Jovetic, Guidetti,, more than enough. again overcrowded, I hope i dont have to draw it.
Overcrowded means that all 4 gets less playing time than 3 + young striker. That is the reason he was sub, not that he was bad. Tell me why was Balotelli the sub., and now he is not. Was it because Balotelli was a BAD player ?? ( or maybe the same reason ? )
Oh yes and OZIL he must be BAD player because he was going to be a SUB in ( overcrowded CM position )Real Madrid this year. ( like u said IT MUST BE THAT ).
 
Zlatan said:
pominoz said:
Great, Zlatan, we have paid 27,000,000 for a striker that is only good in the 6 yard box, when everyone else on the team works to set him up? But we have to give him 10 games, 8 of which we may lose, for him to feel as though he respected?

With all due respect, fuck that!.

Get rid in the winter and sign someone with balls or step up our Swedish boy, for me.

van Nistelrooy, Trezeguet, Vucinic, Gomez , Mandzukic, Inzagi, Klose, Shearer and many many more are just good in the box.
And City would probably won more games with him playing regulary because he would be better and better. ( after scoring 15 he would of be unstoppable, like German Dzeko ).
And NO city would not have to wait long for him to star playing like u said before ( Tottenham 4 was at the beginning of the season, , just example ).
And he really is usless out of 6 yard box
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFyiz89VVXk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFyiz89VVXk</a>

van Nistelrooy, Vucinic and Shearer just good in the box? You've lost me there.

If Dzeko was really that good in the box, he'd already be on about 10 goals this season. That being said, I fancy him to grab a goal or two tonight.
 
Zlatan said:
pominoz said:
Zlatan said:
van Nistelrooy, Trezeguet, Vucinic, Gomez , Mandzukic, Inzagi, Klose, Shearer and many many more are just good in the box.
And City would probably won more games with him playing regulary because he would be better and better.
And NO city would not have to whait long for him to star playing like u said before ( Tottenham 4 was at the begining of the seasson, , just example ).

Played great in that game, was rested for a European game a few days later, and cracked the shits for most of the season, get rid.
Does not have the mind to be a great player in a great team, it is all about him.
Sad but true.
Move him on to a "second tier team", where he will be "king", best for all concerned.

He is much more team player then Tevez or Balotelli ever was.
Watch my video of him bean usless outside 6 yard box.
Gomez and similars could never do that
JUST FOR YOU, enoy his BAD first touch
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBu-jH2Bf8U" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBu-jH2Bf8U</a> ( this video is ANSWER to all ou your questions, hehe , just watch)
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOixhDOMXDw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOixhDOMXDw</a>
Couldn't be arsed watching the videos but if they're supposed to show Dzeko having a good first touch(odds on it's not in a City shirt) then I could show you 12 of him having a bad first touch. Coincidently 12 to 1 is about his conversion rate.

Get rid in January and we'll lose Zlatan too. Win win situation.
 

Dear Colinlee. Again lie.
He was saying that Dzeko IS NOT A TEAM PLAYER. He was not talking better player.
Team player means to sacrifice for the team. Sometimes it is sacrifice to sit on the bench. And Tevez and Balotelli ( as hi did ) would fly away after sitting 6 months on the bench. Tevez was giving 100 % when he was the main man. When he was a SUB , he sometimes diditn even want to play in CL match. Is this a TEAM player dear Colinlee ? ( he was even sulking when Mancini decided he was not a captain ).
 
Dzeko is the oddest of enigmas ... someone who doesn't have a good touch and misses a hatful of chances each game ... and yet, still keeps being on the end of moves to get those chances, game after game, and keeps scoring.
And scoring is something we're told is the hardest thing in football - an art-form that very few players in the world can do consistently - yet Dzeko can do it for fun.

My feeling (for what it's worth) in the Dzeko / Negredo debate is that if Dzeko played all season rather than Negredo, then he wouldn't play as well as Negredo, and he would infuriate people on a regular basis ... but at the end of the season, he would have a hatful of goals, and more goals than Negredo would have had. He could even be top-scorer in the Premier League, whilst being the worst controller and passer of a football on the pitch most weeks.

I suppose this is why Dzeko divides opinion more than anyone on this forum ?
 

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