Edin Dzeko (continued)

[Shirley]

Have you signed up for any Dortmund forums yet or are you waiting until he's been there a bit?

Watching an underperforming player leave isn't the heartbreak to City fans that you people make it out to be. He is leaving because he has failed to make the grade. If we wanted to keep them then we would.

1) Dzeko has scored over 50 goals in his City career (cant even remember how many exactly) - something not many strikers in EPL can say they did.

2) Without "underperformer's" goals (particularly equializers against Notts and QPR, and many, many others) - your SORRY A$$ might have still be waiting for that EPL trophy, and that FA cup trophy...

You and people like you are disgrace to this football club and its fans, you should really be ashamed of yourself.

Cause Bosnians might leave (some will, some might stay - irrelevant) - but the likes of you are actually less of City fans than any bosnian you're calling out...regardless of what you consider yourself to be. Cause you appreciate nothing, and cannot even support a player who's been a very important part of what City did over last few years.

That's a kind of fan you are, and it's fucking pathetic...with "Fans" like you - City does not need enemies.

Fully agree.

What I find amazing is the "throwaway attitude" many of our fans have developed, where are we going to find a 3rd or 4th striker who can score as many goals as Dzeko without paying an absolute fortune.
The club has to be sustainable sooner than later, they cannot carry on losing millions in the transfer market.

 

[Matty]

Have you signed up for any Dortmund forums yet or are you waiting until he's been there a bit?

Watching an underperforming player leave isn't the heartbreak to City fans that you people make it out to be. He is leaving because he has failed to make the grade. If we wanted to keep them then we would.

1) Dzeko has scored over 50 goals in his City career (cant even remember how many exactly) - something not many strikers in EPL can say they did.

2) Without "underperformer's" goals (particularly equializers against Notts and QPR, and many, many others) - your SORRY A$$ might have still be waiting for that EPL trophy, and that FA cup trophy...

You and people like you are disgrace to this football club and its fans, you should really be ashamed of yourself.

Cause Bosnians might leave (some will, some might stay - irrelevant) - but the likes of you are actually less of City fans than any bosnian you're calling out...regardless of what you consider yourself to be. Cause you appreciate nothing, and cannot even support a player who's been a very important part of what City did over last few years.

That's a kind of fan you are, and it's fucking pathetic...with "Fans" like you - City does not need enemies.

A breakdown of Dzeko's goals, he's scored 58 in total, in a little over 3 seasons. That breaksdown further as follows:-

38 Premier League goals
20 Cup Goals, of which:-
4 FA Cup
9 League Cup
3 Europa League
3 Champion's League
1 Community Shield

Secondly, I'm not sure how you can't grasp that "underperforming" and "scoring a couple of vital goals" can't go hand in hand?! You're picking out specific moments which, albeit extremely important to City's success, don't nullify the rest of Dzeko's contributions. Anyone with even a modicum of neutrality when it comes to Dzeko can see that, overall, he hasn't performed to the levels expected.

Put it this way, for me Dzeko is a 75 out of 100 footballer, If you were to assume that 100 was the best footballer on the planet, and 0 was Stephen Hawking. This means that, when you look at a 10, or 20 game period, or an entire season for that matter, Dzeko should perform at 75 levels. What you actually get from Dzeko is, the occasional 85, or maybe even 90 level performance, but far too many 50 to 60 level ones. Overall he SHOULD be a 75 player, what we're getting on average is a 55 or 60 level one. That's where the frustrations lie, and that's why many will class him as underperforming. He's capable of better than he gives. That's not us saying he's shit, it's us saying he doesn't utilise his abilities fully, the dictionary definition of underperforming. The term underperforming even in itself indicates that he can do better, otherwise he'd be performing to his level, it would just be that his level wasn't good enough.

As for you calling legitimate City fans, who have supported this club through the shit, and shitter, years "a disgrace" and "fucking pathetic", well, that wouldn't be tolerated from our fellow City fans, so it certainly won't be tolerated from people who have associated themselves with our club solely so they can follow the career of one player.

 

[aguero93:20]

I like him,he is misunderstood

-- Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:22 pm --

The bold part, dont be silly, is that you Mansour K? If not, dont be surprised if he stays in a club for few more years.

Gone in the summer. Nailed on. Don't presume you and your lot will be back much after that either.

Every time he scores they will :)

 

[noise]

Have you signed up for any Dortmund forums yet or are you waiting until he's been there a bit?

Watching an underperforming player leave isn't the heartbreak to City fans that you people make it out to be. He is leaving because he has failed to make the grade. If we wanted to keep them then we would.

1) Dzeko has scored over 50 goals in his City career (cant even remember how many exactly) - something not many strikers in EPL can say they did.

2) Without "underperformer's" goals (particularly equializers against Notts and QPR, and many, many others) - your SORRY A$$ might have still be waiting for that EPL trophy, and that FA cup trophy...

You and people like you are disgrace to this football club and its fans, you should really be ashamed of yourself.

Cause Bosnians might leave (some will, some might stay - irrelevant) - but the likes of you are actually less of City fans than any bosnian you're calling out...regardless of what you consider yourself to be. Cause you appreciate nothing, and cannot even support a player who's been a very important part of what City did over last few years.

That's a kind of fan you are, and it's fucking pathetic...with "Fans" like you - City does not need enemies.

A breakdown of Dzeko's goals, he's scored 58 in total, in a little over 3 seasons. That breaksdown further as follows:-

38 Premier League goals
20 Cup Goals, of which:-
4 FA Cup
9 League Cup
3 Europa League
3 Champion's League
1 Community Shield

Secondly, I'm not sure how you can't grasp that "underperforming" and "scoring a couple of vital goals" can't go hand in hand?! You're picking out specific moments which, albeit extremely important to City's success, don't nullify the rest of Dzeko's contributions. Anyone with even a modicum of neutrality when it comes to Dzeko can see that, overall, he hasn't performed to the levels expected.

Put it this way, for me Dzeko is a 75 out of 100 footballer, If you were to assume that 100 was the best footballer on the planet, and 0 was Stephen Hawking. This means that, when you look at a 10, or 20 game period, or an entire season for that matter, Dzeko should perform at 75 levels. What you actually get from Dzeko is, the occasional 85, or maybe even 90 level performance, but far too many 50 to 60 level ones. Overall he SHOULD be a 75 player, what we're getting on average is a 55 or 60 level one. That's where the frustrations lie, and that's why many will class him as underperforming. He's capable of better than he gives. That's not us saying he's shit, it's us saying he doesn't utilise his abilities fully, the dictionary definition of underperforming. The term underperforming even in itself indicates that he can do better, otherwise he'd be performing to his level, it would just be that his level wasn't good enough.

As for you calling legitimate City fans, who have supported this club through the shit, and shitter, years "a disgrace" and "fucking pathetic", well, that wouldn't be tolerated from our fellow City fans, so it certainly won't be tolerated from people who have associated themselves with our club solely so they can follow the career of one player.

That's a lot of goals for a 3rd choice striker.

 

[Matty]

1) Dzeko has scored over 50 goals in his City career (cant even remember how many exactly) - something not many strikers in EPL can say they did.

2) Without "underperformer's" goals (particularly equializers against Notts and QPR, and many, many others) - your SORRY A$$ might have still be waiting for that EPL trophy, and that FA cup trophy...

You and people like you are disgrace to this football club and its fans, you should really be ashamed of yourself.

Cause Bosnians might leave (some will, some might stay - irrelevant) - but the likes of you are actually less of City fans than any bosnian you're calling out...regardless of what you consider yourself to be. Cause you appreciate nothing, and cannot even support a player who's been a very important part of what City did over last few years.

That's a kind of fan you are, and it's fucking pathetic...with "Fans" like you - City does not need enemies.

A breakdown of Dzeko's goals, he's scored 58 in total, in a little over 3 seasons. That breaksdown further as follows:-

38 Premier League goals
20 Cup Goals, of which:-
4 FA Cup
9 League Cup
3 Europa League
3 Champion's League
1 Community Shield

Secondly, I'm not sure how you can't grasp that "underperforming" and "scoring a couple of vital goals" can't go hand in hand?! You're picking out specific moments which, albeit extremely important to City's success, don't nullify the rest of Dzeko's contributions. Anyone with even a modicum of neutrality when it comes to Dzeko can see that, overall, he hasn't performed to the levels expected.

Put it this way, for me Dzeko is a 75 out of 100 footballer, If you were to assume that 100 was the best footballer on the planet, and 0 was Stephen Hawking. This means that, when you look at a 10, or 20 game period, or an entire season for that matter, Dzeko should perform at 75 levels. What you actually get from Dzeko is, the occasional 85, or maybe even 90 level performance, but far too many 50 to 60 level ones. Overall he SHOULD be a 75 player, what we're getting on average is a 55 or 60 level one. That's where the frustrations lie, and that's why many will class him as underperforming. He's capable of better than he gives. That's not us saying he's shit, it's us saying he doesn't utilise his abilities fully, the dictionary definition of underperforming. The term underperforming even in itself indicates that he can do better, otherwise he'd be performing to his level, it would just be that his level wasn't good enough.

As for you calling legitimate City fans, who have supported this club through the shit, and shitter, years "a disgrace" and "fucking pathetic", well, that wouldn't be tolerated from our fellow City fans, so it certainly won't be tolerated from people who have associated themselves with our club solely so they can follow the career of one player.

That's a lot of goals for a 3rd choice striker.

Has he always been the 3rd choice sriker? He's been here 9 months longer than Aguero, and 2.5 years longer than Negredo. Prior to that he was competing with Balotelli, who was never regularly one of our top 2 strikers, and Tevez, who was missing for almost our entire title winning season. It's only really been the second 18 months of his stay where he's been 3rd choice, the first 18 months he was getting a fair few games. Even now, given we'll have played 57 games come the end of the season, this "3rd choice" label is misleading. As "3rd choice" he'll still have started, and participated in, a lot of games this season, probably nearing 40.

Dzeko - 147 appearances, 58 goals. Goal every 2.53 games
Balotelli - 80 appearances, 30 goals. Goal every 2.66 games
Negredo - 41 appearances, 23 goals. Goal every 1.78 games
Tevez - 148 appearances, 74 goals. Goal every 2 games
Aguero - 118 appearances, 74 goals. Goal every 1.59 games

Whilst Dzeko goals scoring is pretty good it's worth noting that his goals to appearances ratio is substantially worse than Tevez's, Aguero's and Negredo's (albeit the later is a far smaller sample size).

 

[noise]

A breakdown of Dzeko's goals, he's scored 58 in total, in a little over 3 seasons. That breaksdown further as follows:-

38 Premier League goals
20 Cup Goals, of which:-
4 FA Cup
9 League Cup
3 Europa League
3 Champion's League
1 Community Shield

Secondly, I'm not sure how you can't grasp that "underperforming" and "scoring a couple of vital goals" can't go hand in hand?! You're picking out specific moments which, albeit extremely important to City's success, don't nullify the rest of Dzeko's contributions. Anyone with even a modicum of neutrality when it comes to Dzeko can see that, overall, he hasn't performed to the levels expected.

Put it this way, for me Dzeko is a 75 out of 100 footballer, If you were to assume that 100 was the best footballer on the planet, and 0 was Stephen Hawking. This means that, when you look at a 10, or 20 game period, or an entire season for that matter, Dzeko should perform at 75 levels. What you actually get from Dzeko is, the occasional 85, or maybe even 90 level performance, but far too many 50 to 60 level ones. Overall he SHOULD be a 75 player, what we're getting on average is a 55 or 60 level one. That's where the frustrations lie, and that's why many will class him as underperforming. He's capable of better than he gives. That's not us saying he's shit, it's us saying he doesn't utilise his abilities fully, the dictionary definition of underperforming. The term underperforming even in itself indicates that he can do better, otherwise he'd be performing to his level, it would just be that his level wasn't good enough.

As for you calling legitimate City fans, who have supported this club through the shit, and shitter, years "a disgrace" and "fucking pathetic", well, that wouldn't be tolerated from our fellow City fans, so it certainly won't be tolerated from people who have associated themselves with our club solely so they can follow the career of one player.

That's a lot of goals for a 3rd choice striker.

Has he always been the 3rd choice sriker? He's been here 9 months longer than Aguero, and 2.5 years longer than Negredo. Prior to that he was competing with Balotelli, who was never regularly one of our top 2 strikers, and Tevez, who was missing for almost our entire title winning season. It's only really been the second 18 months of his stay where he's been 3rd choice, the first 18 months he was getting a fair few games. Even now, given we'll have played 57 games come the end of the season, this "3rd choice" label is misleading. As "3rd choice" he'll still have started, and participated in, a lot of games this season, probably nearing 40.

Dzeko - 147 appearances, 58 goals. Goal every 2.53 games
Balotelli - 80 appearances, 30 goals. Goal every 2.66 games
Negredo - 41 appearances, 23 goals. Goal every 1.78 games
Tevez - 148 appearances, 74 goals. Goal every 2 games
Aguero - 118 appearances, 74 goals. Goal every 1.59 games

Whilst Dzeko goals scoring is pretty good it's worth noting that his goals to appearances ratio is substantially worse than Tevez's, Aguero's and Negredo's (albeit the later is a far smaller sample size).

Goal / appearance ratio is probably the worst way to look at it considering how often he was a sub. But even looking at it like that still makes for an impressive tally.

 

[Wrighty Wrexham]

Hurts me to say it but Dzeko looks our best goal scoring striker option at the moment.

Gets into the right positions but misses more than he scores!!

His goal scoring tally would be enormous if he had converted the number of sitters he has missed!!!

 

[samharris]

Hurts me to say it but Dzeko looks our best goal scoring striker option at the moment.

Gets into the right positions but misses more than he scores!!His goal scoring tally would be enormous if he had converted the number of sitters he has missed!!!

So does Suarez,Aguero,Sturridge,Van rap,Rooney..

 

[Matty]

That's a lot of goals for a 3rd choice striker.

Has he always been the 3rd choice sriker? He's been here 9 months longer than Aguero, and 2.5 years longer than Negredo. Prior to that he was competing with Balotelli, who was never regularly one of our top 2 strikers, and Tevez, who was missing for almost our entire title winning season. It's only really been the second 18 months of his stay where he's been 3rd choice, the first 18 months he was getting a fair few games. Even now, given we'll have played 57 games come the end of the season, this "3rd choice" label is misleading. As "3rd choice" he'll still have started, and participated in, a lot of games this season, probably nearing 40.

Dzeko - 147 appearances, 58 goals. Goal every 2.53 games
Balotelli - 80 appearances, 30 goals. Goal every 2.66 games
Negredo - 41 appearances, 23 goals. Goal every 1.78 games
Tevez - 148 appearances, 74 goals. Goal every 2 games
Aguero - 118 appearances, 74 goals. Goal every 1.59 games

Whilst Dzeko goals scoring is pretty good it's worth noting that his goals to appearances ratio is substantially worse than Tevez's, Aguero's and Negredo's (albeit the later is a far smaller sample size).

Goal / appearance ratio is probably the worst way to look at it considering how often he was a sub. But even looking at it like that still makes for an impressive tally.

If we discount his sub appearances then we discount his goals scored as a sub, sound fair? Coming on fresh, playing against players with 80 minutes football in their legs, one could claim that makes it easier to score.

 

[adorado30]

A breakdown of Dzeko's goals, he's scored 58 in total, in a little over 3 seasons. That breaksdown further as follows:-

38 Premier League goals
20 Cup Goals, of which:-
4 FA Cup
9 League Cup
3 Europa League
3 Champion's League
1 Community Shield

Secondly, I'm not sure how you can't grasp that "underperforming" and "scoring a couple of vital goals" can't go hand in hand?! You're picking out specific moments which, albeit extremely important to City's success, don't nullify the rest of Dzeko's contributions. Anyone with even a modicum of neutrality when it comes to Dzeko can see that, overall, he hasn't performed to the levels expected.

Put it this way, for me Dzeko is a 75 out of 100 footballer, If you were to assume that 100 was the best footballer on the planet, and 0 was Stephen Hawking. This means that, when you look at a 10, or 20 game period, or an entire season for that matter, Dzeko should perform at 75 levels. What you actually get from Dzeko is, the occasional 85, or maybe even 90 level performance, but far too many 50 to 60 level ones. Overall he SHOULD be a 75 player, what we're getting on average is a 55 or 60 level one. That's where the frustrations lie, and that's why many will class him as underperforming. He's capable of better than he gives. That's not us saying he's shit, it's us saying he doesn't utilise his abilities fully, the dictionary definition of underperforming. The term underperforming even in itself indicates that he can do better, otherwise he'd be performing to his level, it would just be that his level wasn't good enough.

As for you calling legitimate City fans, who have supported this club through the shit, and shitter, years "a disgrace" and "fucking pathetic", well, that wouldn't be tolerated from our fellow City fans, so it certainly won't be tolerated from people who have associated themselves with our club solely so they can follow the career of one player.

That's a lot of goals for a 3rd choice striker.

Has he always been the 3rd choice sriker? He's been here 9 months longer than Aguero, and 2.5 years longer than Negredo. Prior to that he was competing with Balotelli, who was never regularly one of our top 2 strikers, and Tevez, who was missing for almost our entire title winning season. It's only really been the second 18 months of his stay where he's been 3rd choice, the first 18 months he was getting a fair few games. Even now, given we'll have played 57 games come the end of the season, this "3rd choice" label is misleading. As "3rd choice" he'll still have started, and participated in, a lot of games this season, probably nearing 40.

Dzeko - 147 appearances, 58 goals. Goal every 2.53 games
Balotelli - 80 appearances, 30 goals. Goal every 2.66 games
Negredo - 41 appearances, 23 goals. Goal every 1.78 games
Tevez - 148 appearances, 74 goals. Goal every 2 games
Aguero - 118 appearances, 74 goals. Goal every 1.59 games

Whilst Dzeko goals scoring is pretty good it's worth noting that his goals to appearances ratio is substantially worse than Tevez's, Aguero's and Negredo's (albeit the later is a far smaller sample size).

His goals to appearances ratio is always going to look worse due to the total minutes he's played.
It's also worth noting, that Aguero has played more minutes in 118 appearances than Dzeko in 147 appearances. Obviously there is a reason for that due Aguero being the better player, but Dzeko isn't doing that bad, like most on here are making it out to be.