EaglesFan said:Blue Theatre said:Edin frequently has many more chances in a game than anyone else - so he would appear to make space / get into goal-scoring positions better than anyone, including Sergio and Alvaro.
Unfortunately, what he does next frequently lets him down - no first-touch or finesse/subtlety so really has to hit it first-time if he is to score - sometimes it works and the ball flies into the net, but more often it doesn't.
But he remains one of the top-ten strikers in Premier League history on a goals-per-minute basis, and he was our top-scorer in the league last season, not Aguero whom everyone (rightly) lauds as a god.
I agree with a lot of the criticisms of him, but am just saying Edin can't be as bad as some people make out, and he has been a virtual guarantee of goals everywhere he's played, including top leagues like Germany and England, and at international level (wasn't he 2nd-top scorer in Europe in the just-finished Euro Championship qualifiers ?)
Bold part is exactly what frustrates Edin's fans (me included).
I mean - nobody is saying he is the second coming (and those who do are dellusional), but calling a player with such career accolades Dzeko has "useless", "horrible", etc...is just oh so dumb. I mean really, really, utterly stupid and ignorant.
Like I said, the guy who has scored 60 goals in his last two Bundesliga seasons, over 50 goals in MCFC (not sure), and has been runner-up in two consecutive WC/EC qualifiers now cannot be BAD.
Anyone who doesnt see this is just as dellusional and clueless as some Dzeko's fans.
karen7 said:mancity5 said:karen7 said:Did you vote for anyone?
If not then there is no point moaning at the result
I voted for you... Does that qualify me for a moan, although I'm not sure it was a moan.
As you voted for me you can have a free moan :)
pudge said:Well weve seen one unofficial, that one word says it all, website credit a defenders clearance as an assist to the attacker.CaliforniaBlue said:pudge said:Well one person says 8, one says 7 but the one saying less is being questioned.
Im going by the official records and statistics. Not personal interpretation.
It looked to me like the poster saying more was not only being questioned, but openly ridiculed. And which official records are you using? The Premier League? The FA? UEFA? FIFA? What definition are they using, as there seem to be several different ones? And even if you know the definition and are happy with it, surely you could acknowledge that some unofficial site might use a different definition.
Only Edin can make people scramble for a grey area.
And yes, the respective competitions offical statistics, as they are what are deemed official and definite.
I'll start a website and credit edin with 40 assists and set the criteria to "being in the squad", that will make it unofficially official
I'm not joking.CaliforniaBlue said:pudge said:Well weve seen one unofficial, that one word says it all, website credit a defenders clearance as an assist to the attacker.CaliforniaBlue said:It looked to me like the poster saying more was not only being questioned, but openly ridiculed. And which official records are you using? The Premier League? The FA? UEFA? FIFA? What definition are they using, as there seem to be several different ones? And even if you know the definition and are happy with it, surely you could acknowledge that some unofficial site might use a different definition.
Only Edin can make people scramble for a grey area.
And yes, the respective competitions offical statistics, as they are what are deemed official and definite.
I'll start a website and credit edin with 40 assists and set the criteria to "being in the squad", that will make it unofficially official
I'm sorry you really don't seem to get the point of my posts on this subject. If you don't want to acknowledge the arbitrariness of the official stats on assists, that's up to you (this also isn't about trying to inflate Edin's stats relative to other players as the website that was quoted presumably uses the same definition for everyone, so you can still compare his January stats to Negredo's on an even playing field). However, I hope that most readers can see that equating a slightly different definition (one that's been used officially by FIFA during World Cups) with "being in the squad" is ridiculous. And the "I was obviously joking to make a point" argument doesn't really wash either - you're still attempting to completely discredit the use of a slightly different criteria on the grounds that it doesn't happen to be the one chosen by a particular governing body this season.
couldn't score in an empty net tonightfoetus said:Didn't show up tonight. Not his best game.
Was he even on the pitch?foetus said:Didn't show up tonight. Not his best game.
Prestwich_Blue said:Was he even on the pitch?foetus said:Didn't show up tonight. Not his best game.
bornblueegg said:couldn't score in an empty net tonightfoetus said:Didn't show up tonight. Not his best game.