Edin Dzeko (continued)

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Damocles said:
david whites spike said:
*puts tin hat on*
This guy needs support not abuse

Which he constantly gets, every single week at the ground. There was even a Dzeko chant immediately after that miss.

If you think this is the type of message board where everybody sits around wanking about how great we are then you've mistaken it for Red Cafe.
He has been given support in the past but today there was far more abuse ...I've backed him previously and still think dzeko can do no right for some people, but have to admit he doesn't help himself with some of his play. Saying that I've never seen a player improve by us having a go so whilst he's still at city he gets my backing. Shout at, and take the piss out of the opposition but never one of your own team.
 
Edin let his head go down today. Didn't like that.

He might have had a shocking game, but what did you do City fans? Didn't get behind the team, and that's your only job.
 
Bigga said:
karen7 said:
Won player of the month by a landslide
Just saying

Some of the comments on here are really over the top,great way to support one of our own blues

You're being far too kind, Karen!!

I think some of the comments are of the proper ars*hole variety. All our attacking options are poor of late. Yaya only just managed to sort his feet out for the goal as well!

A 'donkey' is Torres/ Eto'o/ Little Peas(or whatever his name is!)/ Welshyte etc.

Edin is not the same as these.

I didn't want to type what i really think about the abuse he gets because i can't be bothered to get in a row with people who's minds are made up
As a 3rd choice striker he is great,clumsy and awkward at times,yes but scores a lot of important goals and that is good enough for me to support him whilst he is here
 
Damocles said:
david whites spike said:
*puts tin hat on*
This guy needs support not abuse

Which he constantly gets, every single week at the ground. There was even a Dzeko chant immediately after that miss.

If you think this is the type of message board where everybody sits around wanking about how great we are then you've mistaken it for Red Cafe.
I understand where your coming from but today certain sections of the crowd absolutely hammered him.yes he had a fuckin stinker but the dogs abuse I heard him get was well over the top.we need our forwards confidently scoring goals not scared shitless of misplacing a pass.he deserves better IMO.silva misplaced a couple today and you could hear a pin drop.dzeko does it and gets hammered.win as a team lose as a team.
 
karen7 said:
Bigga said:
karen7 said:
Won player of the month by a landslide
Just saying

Some of the comments on here are really over the top,great way to support one of our own blues

You're being far too kind, Karen!!

I think some of the comments are of the proper ars*hole variety. All our attacking options are poor of late. Yaya only just managed to sort his feet out for the goal as well!

A 'donkey' is Torres/ Eto'o/ Little Peas(or whatever his name is!)/ Welshyte etc.

Edin is not the same as these.

I didn't want to type what i really think about the abuse he gets because i can't be bothered to get in a row with people who's minds are made up
As a 3rd choice striker he is great,clumsy and awkward at times,yes but scores a lot of important goals and that is good enough for me to support him whilst he is here

I'll support him too. He 's a City player. But FFS he doesn't help his cause sometimes.
 
Got robbed of that assist for dissolved Nasri goal. That was not a hand ball. Got fouled plenty of times without getting awarded by the ref. I thought he worked hard, he was tracking back quite a bit. Kept making productive runs. Was involved in the build up to the goal. Was the best forward on the pitch imo despite that terrible miss.
 
ifiwasarichfan said:
The last time we played someone shit at Home and they came and parked the Bus it was Dzeko who popped up with the only Goal of the game.

Just saying.

An awful lot of fuckwits on this thread and a fair few good posters who should have put a little bit more thought into their opinion.

The problem isn't that people think he's unable to score; in fact his goal tally is literally the only thing keeping him here.

The problem is that he doesn't fit our game in the slightest bit and we expose all of his large weaknesses. He cannot control a pacey ball very well, he often gets tangled up within himself and he needs 5 chances to score. He is also inconsistent in his application which is the worst crime you can commit in English football.

He doesn't need 5 chances because he's not an accurate striker but because he has the vision of Stevie Wonder after swimming in chlorine and shoots for absolutely no reason. We often have patient and intricate passes in our attacking routine, so it goes pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-over the bar. I'm sure you know which one of those was a Dzeko touch.

There's also many occasions where we are counter attacking, and he drops deep to get the ball then seems to have the turning circle of an oil tanker by which time the ball through to the runners has gone and he needs to switch it to the wings hoping they can either beat their man to make up for this lack of speed of thought or they can continue the patient positional play.

Dzeko's strengths lie in his last touch at the end of a speedy attack. His problem is that this is a style of football that none of the top teams have played for 5 years at least so he will always be either a rotational striker at a big club who can fit in in certain circumstances or he can be a big fish at a small pond like he was at Wolfsburg. Dzeko is a man posting a letter when everybody else is sending emails and he cannot hope to be the focal point of a major team unless a new tactical revolution happens in football.

As I've said before, Dzeko himself is a well liked individual who is one of the only City players who gets their chant sung at every single game even if he isn't on the pitch. His fans however are the most annoying bunch of twats who rotate between slagging off the manager to more often recently slagging off the City fanbase and that's something that I won't stand for from visitors. I recognise that there are people who started out as twats and have gradually become a good part of the forum but the majority haven't.

The problem is that we can never have a sensible conversation about Dzeko because they do stupid things like posting Lionel Messi missing a chance and think this is a valid point to make. So our opinions become more extreme to mirror their extreme opinions and before you know it we have two sets of people lobbing out extreme opinions instead of a proper conversation. Every time Dzeko scores a goal apparently any and all criticism is instantly nullified because that's how talent works, it grows with every goal or something like a power up bar. This is despite the fact that Dzeko has a decent goal record and still spends many City games swanning around, twatting it off target from stupid positions and generally getting in people's way.

This will never change whilst Dzeko is at City and presumably he's going in this summer rather than signing a new deal so we only have to put up with it for another few months before we can have a conversation about the bloke that isn't spoilt by a bunch of one issue posters. These guys are essentially Dzeko's version of Mancio.
 
Damocles said:
ifiwasarichfan said:
The last time we played someone shit at Home and they came and parked the Bus it was Dzeko who popped up with the only Goal of the game.

Just saying.

An awful lot of fuckwits on this thread and a fair few good posters who should have put a little bit more thought into their opinion.

The problem isn't that people think he's unable to score; in fact his goal tally is literally the only thing keeping him here.

The problem is that he doesn't fit our game in the slightest bit and we expose all of his large weaknesses. He cannot control a pacey ball very well, he often gets tangled up within himself and he needs 5 chances to score. He is also inconsistent in his application which is the worst crime you can commit in English football.

He doesn't need 5 chances because he's not an accurate striker but because he has the vision of Stevie Wonder after swimming in chlorine and shoots for absolutely no reason. We often have patient and intricate passes in our attacking routine, so it goes pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-pass-over the bar. I'm sure you know which one of those was a Dzeko touch.

There's also many occasions where we are counter attacking, and he drops deep to get the ball then seems to have the turning circle of an oil tanker by which time the ball through to the runners has gone and he needs to switch it to the wings hoping they can either beat their man to make up for this lack of speed of thought or they can continue the patient positional play.

Dzeko's strengths lie in his last touch at the end of a speedy attack. His problem is that this is a style of football that none of the top teams have played for 5 years at least so he will always be either a rotational striker at a big club who can fit in in certain circumstances or he can be a big fish at a small pond like he was at Wolfsburg. Dzeko is a man posting a letter when everybody else is sending emails and he cannot hope to be the focal point of a major team unless a new tactical revolution happens in football.

As I've said before, Dzeko himself is a well liked individual who is one of the only City players who gets their chant sung at every single game even if he isn't on the pitch. His fans however are the most annoying bunch of twats who rotate between slagging off the manager to more often recently slagging off the City fanbase and that's something that I won't stand for from visitors. I recognise that there are people who started out as twats and have gradually become a good part of the forum but the majority haven't.

The problem is that we can never have a sensible conversation about Dzeko because they do stupid things like posting Lionel Messi missing a chance and think this is a valid point to make. So our opinions become more extreme to mirror their extreme opinions and before you know it we have two sets of people lobbing out extreme opinions instead of a proper conversation. Every time Dzeko scores a goal apparently any and all criticism is instantly nullified because that's how talent works, it grows with every goal or something like a power up bar. This is despite the fact that Dzeko has a decent goal record and still spends many City games swanning around, twatting it off target from stupid positions and generally getting in people's way.

This will never change whilst Dzeko is at City and presumably he's going in this summer rather than signing a new deal so we only have to put up with it for another few months before we can have a conversation about the bloke that isn't spoilt by a bunch of one issue posters. These guys are essentially Dzeko's version of Mancio.

But he should of had an assist, got fouled a lot and was the best forward on the pitch?
 
Marvin said:
Edin let his head go down today. Didn't like that.

He might have had a shocking game, but what did you do City fans? Didn't get behind the team, and that's your only job.

I 'do' my 'job' for an average of 60 hours a week during which I work my arse off.

I go to the game to enjoy it, not to work.

A reallly shit post Marv.
 
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