Edin Dzeko (continued)

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Loukas said:
CTID1988 said:
Loukas said:
I can understand why people think he doesn't want to put effort in because of his playing style. But I can assure you he wants to win games as much as we want him too! Look how happy he was to win the cup yesterday! He isn't the type of player that will be sliding into defenders and sprinting to scare goal keepers. He's there to bring the ball down (Which he did brilliantly yesterday) and then play it too Aguero or give it to the midfield and then push the defensive line back creating more room. He's pretty similar to what Berbatov was like at United, but he is 100x more hated.

If we all cheered him on a bit more rather than booing him every three second's he might have a bit more confidence on the ball!

Do you go to games? Ive never heard him get booed


Do I go to games? Well you could count the games I've missed in the past 2 seasons on one hand if that helps.
Take it you weren't at the Stoke game the other week then?

2 seasons you say?

Interesting

He's shit and your analysis of his game is shitter, unless you haven't noticed we very rarely 'pump' the ball forward so Eddie boy becomes null and void, his touch is bordering on the ridiculous, what he does have is an instinctive trait of scoring goals when he doesn't have more than 3 seconds to think about it, that isn't a top class striker, not in my book anyway....his effort yesterday was appalling for a final, what you'd know about city fans if you'd been following us more than the time Eddie boy rocked up, is that effort will always endear that player to the faithful, a lazy **** is a lazy ****, sadly Eddie falls into that bracket.........
 
I thought he did alright yesterday considering the circumstances. His performance was similar to that vs. Bayern (a performance most praised him for). He controlled the ball when he could, but for most of the attack he was too crowded. This is why most of the goals came from outside the box. Sunderland was packing the box.

I saw him intercept, clear balls, provide aerial dominance and track back all game long. I think he put in an effort. He also got no service so not scoring can't really be a critique on his performance.

At the end of the day, Pellegrini seems to like what Dzeko is doing (or otherwise he wouldn't be playing him). If he was as appalling as some claim I wonder why he wasn't subbed out at half time. Let me answer that for you, because he's playing satisfactory per instructions given to him by the manager.
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Loukas said:
CTID1988 said:
Do you go to games? Ive never heard him get booed


Do I go to games? Well you could count the games I've missed in the past 2 seasons on one hand if that helps.
Take it you weren't at the Stoke game the other week then?

2 seasons you say?

Interesting

He's shit and your analysis of his game is shitter, unless you haven't noticed we very rarely 'pump' the ball forward so Eddie boy becomes null and void, his touch is bordering on the ridiculous, what he does have is an instinctive trait of scoring goals when he doesn't have more than 3 seconds to think about it, that isn't a top class striker, not in my book anyway....his effort yesterday was appalling for a final, what you'd know about city fans if you'd been following us more than the time Eddie boy rocked up, is that effort will always endear that player to the faithful, a lazy **** is a lazy ****, sadly Eddie falls into that bracket.........

He failed to have much of an affect and he seems particularly useless against packed defenses, but we absolutely hoofed the ball forward yesterday and he did do a decent job of winning the first ball. For whatever reason, we seemed to be targeting him for this yesterday (watch the replay, he's the target of everything from Pantilimon and he wins a bunch -- strangely, nobody was there to collect the balls he won back toward his teammates).

This is a thread that wont die and I've defended Edin quite a bunch. I think there's a striker of our level there, but at this point his head seems so screwed up I think it's probably best for him to go somewhere else. I do think he'll score a bagful in a team that doesn't dominate possession as much as we do. But his touch and build up play just aren't consistent enough for what we need, and it seems like the mistakes get to him and he loses confidence.
 
Loukas said:
taconinja said:
Loukas said:
Every pantomime need's a villain and Dzeko is ours!

Since he's been at the club we've won 2 cups and a league which he has played an instrumental part in.

He scored the joint most goals in the League cup this year.

I'm really getting sick of people getting on his back, he wears a City shirt so support him! In the first half yesterday he tracked back to the edge of our box whilst Sunderland were breaking. Then when we got the ball some idiot behind me shouts, what the f*ck is Dzeko doing back there! Then 10 minute later shouts Why the F*ck is dzeko not running back!

You people can't be happy that we have just won a trophy which Dzeko played a big part in, as well as playing an even bigger part in winning the league because you need your Pantomime Villain! When Dzeko goes it will change to being Garcia or Kolorov again. But until then, just keep it to yourselves, I'm sure a professional football knows when he is having a bad game and I'm sure a manager that got Villarreal 1 missed pen off a Champions league final doesn't need you to point it out too him either.
Look, I think most are just disappointed in his effort yesterday. The only real annoyance I feel is at the poster who feels a need to have a go at Aguero.


I can understand why people think he doesn't want to put effort in because of his playing style. But I can assure you he wants to win games as much as we want him too! Look how happy he was to win the cup yesterday! He isn't the type of player that will be sliding into defenders and sprinting to scare goal keepers. He's there to bring the ball down (Which he did brilliantly yesterday) and then play it too Aguero or give it to the midfield and then push the defensive line back creating more room. He's pretty similar to what Berbatov was like at United, but he is 100x more hated.

If we all cheered him on a bit more rather than booing him every three second's he might have a bit more confidence on the ball!

As a ST holder I go to all home games,but don`t travel away.I have never heard him being booed at all,irrespective of his poor performances on a regular basis.However if you are telling me that this booing is heard at away games,then I`m truly surprised,as even his fiercest critics would have come out and supported him,surely.
 
noise said:
I thought he did alright yesterday considering the circumstances. His performance was similar to that vs. Bayern (a performance most praised him for). He controlled the ball when he could, but for most of the attack he was too crowded. This is why most of the goals came from outside the box. Sunderland was packing the box.

I saw him intercept, clear balls, provide aerial dominance and track back all game long. I think he put in an effort. He also got no service so not scoring can't really be a critique on his performance.

At the end of the day, Pellegrini seems to like what Dzeko is doing (or otherwise he wouldn't be playing him). If he was as appalling as some claim I wonder why he wasn't subbed out at half time.
You watched a different game - or at least watched the game you wanted to watch. His aerial dominance provided nothing and like I mentioned earlier, jogging along at what was nothing more than walking pace isn't tracking back. Had he put any effort in he'd have been busting a gut to get on the end of Nasri's cross in the second half which because he hadn't been arsed to take the gamble meant he was nowhere near.
It was a cup final and he looked like he couldn't give a toss, summed up with his walk to the sidelines when subbed and he couldn't even muster any acknowledgement to the fans.
Honestly, I thought that was one of his worse performances in a blue shirt and it fucking grated because of the occasion.
The reason he wasn't subbed at half time was due to Aguero not being fully fit and was obviously gonna come off around the hour mark and Negredo not ready to play more than half an hour due to his injury. It was his big chance to prove he should be starting every game until the end of the season and he blew it.
 
noise said:
I thought he did alright yesterday considering the circumstances. His performance was similar to that vs. Bayern (a performance most praised him for). He controlled the ball when he could, but for most of the attack he was too crowded. This is why most of the goals came from outside the box. Sunderland was packing the box.

I saw him intercept, clear balls, provide aerial dominance and track back all game long. I think he put in an effort. He also got no service so not scoring can't really be a critique on his performance.

At the end of the day, Pellegrini seems to like what Dzeko is doing (or otherwise he wouldn't be playing him). If he was as appalling as some claim I wonder why he wasn't subbed out at half time. Let me answer that for you, because he's playing satisfactory per instructions given to him by the manager.
Of course you do
 
Pablo1 said:
noise said:
I thought he did alright yesterday considering the circumstances. His performance was similar to that vs. Bayern (a performance most praised him for). He controlled the ball when he could, but for most of the attack he was too crowded. This is why most of the goals came from outside the box. Sunderland was packing the box.

I saw him intercept, clear balls, provide aerial dominance and track back all game long. I think he put in an effort. He also got no service so not scoring can't really be a critique on his performance.

At the end of the day, Pellegrini seems to like what Dzeko is doing (or otherwise he wouldn't be playing him). If he was as appalling as some claim I wonder why he wasn't subbed out at half time.
You watched a different game - or at least watched the game you wanted to watch. His aerial dominance provided nothing and like I mentioned earlier, jogging along at what was nothing more than walking pace isn't tracking back. Had he put any effort in he'd have been busting a gut to get on the end of Nasri's cross in the second half which because he hadn't been arsed to take the gamble meant he was nowhere near.
It was a cup final and he looked like he couldn't give a toss, summed up with his walk to the sidelines when subbed and he couldn't even muster any acknowledgement to the fans.
Honestly, I thought that was one of his worse performances in a blue shirt and it fucking grated because of the occasion.
The reason he wasn't subbed at half time was due to Aguero not being fully fit and was obviously gonna come off around the hour mark and Negredo not ready to play more than half an hour due to his injury. It was his big chance to prove he should be starting every game until the end of the season and he blew it.
I disagree, I think he worked hard all game long, he made defensive clearances and interceptions (he covered a lot of ground). As for Nasri's ball, Dzeko never runs after lost causes, after 3 seasons no one should be surprised by this. I don't want him to run after lost causes either, he should conserve his energy for the balls that actually matter.

He's the competition's joint top scorer, how some of you can accuse him of not caring is beyond me.
 
What is the correlation between scoring and caring?

Like Armaan the last few weeks have shown he is not suited to us.
His attitude seems poor also.

I wish him all the best wherever he goes as im pretty sure he will go in summer.
 
TCIB said:
What is the correlation between scoring and caring?

Like Armaan the last few weeks have shown he is not suited to us.
His attitude seems poor also.

I wish him all the best wherever he goes as im pretty sure he will go in summer.
I've implored people to watch a replay of a Dzeko game, but only watch him, and what you'll see is a countless number of runs at the offside trap. He does this all game long. Not too long ago this was highlighted on one of the MOTDs, Dzeko was praised for it. His goals come from the hard work he puts in off the ball, which often goes unnoticed (I can guarantee you Pellegrini notices). Constant movement and runs he makes, which escapes most of his average haters.

A guy who scores most goals in a competition cannot be accused of not caring, I am sorry.
 
I never said he did not care, i asked what the correlation between scoring and caring was.

I archive every single match and i do re watch them.
Dzeko often seems disinterested and his touch is appalling.

I feel there are other players who could maximise the output from the spot given.
 
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